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[sebi123]

Loose players play relatively more hands and tend to continue with weaker hands; hence they don't often fold. Tight players play relatively fewer hands and tend not to continue with weaker hands; hence they often fold. The following concepts are applicable in loose games (and their inverse in tight games):[1]

* Bluffs and semi-bluffs are less effective because loose opponents are less likely to fold.
* Requirements for continuing with made hands may be lower because loose players may also be playing lower value hands.
* Drawing to incomplete hands, like flushes, tends to be more valuable as draws will often get favorable pot odds and a stronger hand (rather than merely one pair) is often required to win in multi-way pots.



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[otwang]

Please loose in tight games and looser in loose games.

Loose players play relatively more hands and tend to continue with weaker hands; hence they don't often fold. Tight players play relatively fewer hands and tend not to continue with weaker hands; hence they often fold. The following concepts are applicable in loose games (and their inverse in tight games):[1]

    * Bluffs and semi-bluffs are less effective because loose opponents are less likely to fold.
    * Requirements for continuing with made hands may be lower because loose players may also be playing lower value hands.
    * Drawing to incomplete hands, like flushes, tends to be more valuable as draws will often get favorable pot odds and a stronger hand (rather than merely one pair) is often required to win in multi-way pots.
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[rustraptor]

If I get a good hand against a loose player and hit on flop - I will slow play them. This is what I call a trap. They will bet the pot up and at the end I will re-raise on them to get more money out of them.

With tight players if I hit on the flop I will be more aggressive. So they don't steal the pot on the turn or river. The goal here is to get them to fold.

Good luck!

[blaneMan]

KJo, jLenart, knetpoker, PBG, ATE and a host of other 2004-2007 posters, whom you should all look up on this site, would skewer these kinds of posts.

While it is a community forum and there is no wrong post, there are retarded posts and this one has "um... what" written all over it....

"If I get a good hand against a loose player and hit on flop - I will slow play them..."

Really? In position, or out of position? What happens when you're out of position and you check your really good hand and he checks too?

When I get a good hand against a loose player, I usually have position on them because why play out of position against a player who can play any two cards?

Just my two cents.

[Lemonman]

Tight is right if you are in a full ring game and young punks trying to get you just take it easy in a full ring game you can wait.

[JohnnyT812]

Blane, good to see someone still lurks. Same here, lurk a little, post even less. As for my Play, haven't touched a table - live or net (and I seldom play less than 3 tables) for over two weeks. Made silver on PS, played a month and flat got ate up -

As for the latest group of members, I'm certainly happy to see a least a bit of life outside spam-a-lots!

Tight vs. Loose - that's easy enough, but how about a bit more definition here. Are they a "they" or is it a "Them". Are we discussing table image or opponent image. How about the aggressive factor? How often they see a flop can mean anything from a sloppy newbie who, simply put, hasn't learned any better to a skillful opponent looking for flops with junk that hit. And hit hard enough to stack someone off! Going to the river with nothing more than an overpair is sure enough loose play, yet exactly why are they doing it?

Does our loose player do it often, every showdown, against everyone or does he do so only against another typical loose opponent?

As for the adage "Tight is Right" there is only a bit of truth in it. Upping our starting hands (playing tight) has some merit, especially if we possess limited experience. When playing a loose 'table' we must understand even AA goes down in win percentage against multiple opponents. While the value may not change, the chances of our Aces being cracked (beaten) are increased.

So, just hanging in there playing high-end starting hands will not usually do the trick as for beating loose tables, and even against our typical loose opponent. Simply put, a loose opponent means they will play any two pre-flop. A loose table puts us against several of those random hands. I will not advocate either type of play against a loose table, where there are several (multiple) opponents going to the flop with any two. What I will advise, and what I believe is most profitable, is to leave that table. Find another. On the net, it's a necessary skill set - finding the right tables with the right players. In fact I'll go even further - it's not only necessary but paramount to your game, and to your bankroll.

I'm not saying run from a LAG (Loose/Aggresive/Game and certainly not from a LAP (Loose/Aggressive/Player). We want those players playing junk to play against our style, our style being whatever we choose. What I am saying is;

Stating something along the lines of "Play Tight against Loose and Loose against Tight" is somewhat correct, it's very shallow thinking. A solid player, one that is advanced in his thoughts, is capable of playing any of the four corners against a particular opponent. That same opponent knows (usually learned by very expensive lessons) a loose table is nowhere to make any money.

In closing, find those tables where you have that right mixture. One or two loose, one or two tight, many in the middle and ride the tide. The thing about loose or even tight tables is, they tend to change. That change may or may not have enough value to hang around. Learning when to get up and leave is one of the key battles we all must learn, one that will leads us to many of our winning sessions.

Specific to Lemonman's comment about 'punk young' players:

Meaning no offense, but believing that only young players act this way leads me to believe you either haven't played much or are just beginning. Believe me, I'm 52, I'm very capable of playing the same way (my style doesn't even have a name) and I personally see this 'Creative' play throughout the age and gender groups. It's just one of the many ways the game has changed over the last several years.