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post Apr 17 2006, 12:52 PM
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About Us Poker RNG Review

Poker RNG stands for Poker Random Number Generator. Every online poker website uses a certain RNG to generate random numbers which ideally leads to random cards.

However, no computer can possibly generate a completely random number. The numbers are generated using a very sophisticated formula. This formula is essentially what we call RNG. If the RNG of a poker website is found by a player, he will know the cards on the flop, turn, river, as well as other players hole cards. As every poker player knows, this will give dominating advantage to the cheater/hacker. It is important to mention that online poker websites change their RNGs bi-weekly or some even every week. While this does not stop the hackers to find the new RNG, it slows it down allot.

Random number generation is such a wide field that you can even get your math degree concentration or masters in it. Random number generators produce random numbers using different methods. They used to produce them using the computer date/time. which led to a crack down of their RNG by a group of hackers (You can read the news here). Nowadays, they use other methods such as radio frequencies.

There are softwares out there that claim that they can track the POKER RNG and predict the community cards, other player's cards and so forth. Read the rest of the article to find the answer to the following questions:

What is Poker RNG?
How does Poker RNG predict the upcoming hands?
Is it legal to own and/or use Poker RNG?
Does Poker RNG really work?
How much does Poker RNG cost? Where can I buy it from? Is it worth the price?

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What is Poker RNG? - How Does it work? (Priced at $457)

Poker RNG is a softwares that claim that it can figure the RNG formula of poker websites out. Therefore it can predict the community cards, the dominant suit on the flop, and hole cards of two other players at the table.

The way it works is that you punch in your Hole Cards and the Community Cards in the software (A screen shot of the actual software is shown below). Then based on it's database (which has been built by you) it will predict the flop, dominant suit on the flop and hole cards of two players at the table with an accuracy of 99.9%.


Screen shot of the actual Poker Rng software.


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How does Poker RNG predict the upcoming hands?

As I said in the last section, you will have to build a database for your Poker RNG. A different database is needed for every different website and even different ones for the ring games and the tournaments. The database is built by you as the user punching your hole cards and the community cards in the software.

Poker RNG uses the database entered by you, to figure out the Random Number Generator shuffling system. For the software to be able to make the predictions with 99.9% accuracy a database of over 2000 hands is needed (According to their website)

Until the database is completed the software can not - supposedly - predict as accurate as possible. There are different levels of accuracy based on the number of entered hands in the database. Following is a copy-paste of the section on Accuracy-Based-on-Database taken directly from the Poker RNG manual.

Before we go further with this I want to make two important notes:

you enter a hand (your hole cards and the community cards) in the database it is only considered a complete hand if it goes all the way to the river. So to build a database of 2000 hands you would need to play more like 3000 actual hands. I think this is very important to pay attention if you are seriously thinking about purchasing Poker RNG. Because it requires a very time consuming start up to build the database.
Also once the database is built, you will need to play approximately 300 to 400 hands a week to keep the database updated. As I said before most online poker websites change their RNG shuffling bi-weekly. So Poker RNG needs to keep itself updated with that too.
Hands 1 through 300
From 1 to 300 hands you will see some results, mainly low accuracy results and some 80% accuracy results. Please remember what was said above about accuracy. The accuracy level will not be truly accurate until it says the same accuracy constantly. If it jumps from Low to 80% and back to low, that specific 80% hand will not truly be 80% until each and every hand is showing either 80% or higher.
Hands 301 through 800
During this time frame you will notice more matches and more results. You should start seeing more 80% accuracy readings and barely any “More Data Needed” readings. It is still normal to jump from “Low Accuracy” and then back up to “Accuracy 80%”. Not all cards are supposed to match in this range!
Hands 801 through 1500
This is when you will see solid matches, higher accuracy and more direct hits. But remember, until the results are displayed as 99% every time, it will not be at the optimal level. You should be averaging at least 4 hands out of 10 where 2 cards are right.
Hands 1501 through 2200
You are very close to full accuracy. You will see accurate read-outs 6 times out of 10, a lot of direct matches and few times where almost all of the data is correct.
Hands 2201 +
You should now be very close to or already at 99% accuracy for each and every hand shown. If you have not been seeing the river often enough, your database will require more hands entered.


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Is it legal to own and/or use Poker RNG?

Poker RNG is not illegal to own (This could differ from state to state as it is illegal to own any gambling cheating devices in some states including Nevada - but I'm not sure if a software can be considered a device or not).

However almost none of poker websites allow external poker softwares to be used along with their server. If the online poker websites find out that a player is using external software, colluding, or using any other cheat methods they will temporarily close the poker account and put it under investigation. Once they believe (not necessarily prove) that the player has been cheating, they will close the poker account permanently and take the money in that account away.

Some poker websites including Party Poker, look for softwares that are being run with their poker software and try to track the cheating ones (mainly the poker robots) down. However, it is not required for Poker RNG to be run on the same computer as the poker software is being run. In fact Poker RNG user manual suggests that the players should use a separate computer to punch it the database and check the predictions so there is absolutely no relationship between the two software. That way it can not be detected by the poker websites at all.


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Does Poker RNG really work?

The only people who could answer this question would be the ones who actually used it. However if someone used it and later said that it doesn't work, would you really believe them? If it does work of course they want less competition for themselves.

I personally do not think that it should work. Pay attention the way I phrased it. I don't think that it should work. I have two logics for that:

Online poker websites make at least a million dollar a night each. If I had a business like that, I would never allow a $500 software destroy the trust between me and my customers. I have no doubt that the actual owners of online poker websites would do the same. Even if that meant paying Poker RNG's owner all the money he could possibly make by selling the software in order to stop the sale of the software. That is assuming that the software works and online websites would buy the software company.
You are a poker player yourself. You know what a great advantage it would be if you knew the community cards (forget about the dominant suit and other players hole cards). If you had a software that would have done that for you, would you sell it for a lousy $500? or would you use it and make millions playing online poker? That is my second reason why I don't believe the software actually works.

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How much does Poker RNG cost? Where can I buy it from? Is it worth the price?

Poker RNG costs $457. I have not been able to find a cheaper version. Every customer is given an ID associated with their email address. You will need the email address to login to the software each time you open Poker RNG. This is used to stop illegal copying of Poker RNG.

Poker RNG can be purchased at Poker RNG website(Power Poker Secrets).

Whether it's worth the price or not is really up to you to decide. I have given you every information I have about the software. So go ahead and decide whether you want to give it a shot or not. I purchased Poker RNG myself and worked with it for less than a week. Honestly I never got it to the 2000 hand database. It was too time consuming for me. I believe most of their customers do the same thing. They buy the software out of their curiosity and throw it away after they use it for a while. We always want what we don't have.

Here is my suggestion: Don't break your bankroll to buy this because you think you will become a millionaire. Buy this software only if you have extra $500 that you don't know what to do or you might want to get together with could friends and share it together - It is possible to share database with each other; however, I'm not so sure about the technicality of it.


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i have this tested as a pro gambler in horse racing i needed something in the evening to make cash it works ive used it for two weeks now but i have had to top up the results in its database i could see when paradise poker reset its rng seed as my % winning fell...took all night to get it back up but well worth it it is a money maker for how long till someone floods the market? who knows if you gamble to make money then this is the tool

regards lestat I HAVE A CRACKED COPY FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS IT FOR $99 AND IL THROW IN ACES HIGH AND A POKER BOT SOME GOOD E-BOOKS A HORSE RACING SELECTION PROGRAMME AND POWER BLACKJACK I PERSONALLY USE A GOLDEN BUDDY WITH THE SAME SOFTWARE I HAVNT PLAYED I DONT THINK AGAINST ANOTHER RNG DONT ASK ME WHAT WOULD HAPPEN
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post Apr 17 2006, 01:09 PM
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We have something call PokerForum STFUAQSU:

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post Apr 17 2006, 03:00 PM
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Leet. Now there are people pretending to have *hacked* versions of the RNG software that they sell for significantly less than the *real* version.

I have a great big pile of steaming crap for you to buy. It's only $99. Compare that to the $500 pile of steaming crap and you can see what a great deal it is.
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post Apr 17 2006, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(Jav @ Apr 17 2006, 06:00 PM)
Leet.  Now there are people pretending to have *hacked* versions of the RNG software that they sell for significantly less than the *real* version.

I have a great big pile of steaming crap for you to buy.  It's only $99.  Compare that to the $500 pile of steaming crap and you can see what a great deal it is.
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The one for $99 must be a "copy" correct?
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post Apr 17 2006, 05:25 PM
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From what I have been told by people in the industry is this does not work.
The RNG a poker room uses isnt just a RNG. I don't know the technical terms but basically the RNG changes every so often. The program is virtually impossible to sync up to for any ammount of time.


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post Sep 19 2006, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(AndrewK @ Apr 17 2006, 08:25 PM)
From what I have been told by people in the industry is this does not work.
The RNG a poker room uses isnt just a RNG. I don't know the technical terms but basically the RNG changes every so often. The program is virtually impossible to sync up to for any ammount of time.
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There are tons of cracked versions of this software, that you can download for free. Just like everyone else, I immediately thought it was BS. However I have seen some pretty strange plays online that lead me to wonder if this sort of thing was happening and if it was being used against me. (Yes, I was a losing poker player)

If I hadn't of gotten the software for free, I probably would have never tried it out. I have yet to get the full results that the site claims to get, but there are some interesting results. I currently have a profile of 5,000+ hands and suprisingly do get at least 2 of the 3 predicted cards. The dominant suit is if'y at best.

Granted, I don't just go AI because it tells me I might flop a set or something. But if I can do it cheaply, it definitely helps when chasing.

The amount of hands required before I started to get results were about twice as much as the website stated, so I definitely think they overstated the features. However there are a couple of profile services sites out there that will create profiles for you for relatively a small amount of money. The site I used was pokerrng-profiles.com but there are a couple out there.

I'm not sure if this thing just seems to be predicting correctly due to the probability that eventually it will get something right, but for me it has been working a lot better than I expected. Supposedly, the cracked versions are lacking some code, and the retail versions are more accurate. I might look into it but to be honest, I am pretty happy with the cracked version.
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post Sep 19 2006, 02:25 PM
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Now, this time, I'm a little impressed. A totally new poster, spamming the spam. It reminds me of that "your computer is infected, dowload our anti-virus software" pop-up ad, that would itelf install malware that you had to pay to uninstall....
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post Jan 25 2007, 01:22 AM
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Please allow me to debunk this scamware before your very eyes....prepare to be amazed!
I purchased a copy on E-Bay (luckily for only $4) and used it for a time until my suspicions were aroused when I was dealt the exact same hand twice in a row, which I'm sure any experienced poker player has had happen. To my amazement, the scamware reported that there is a 99% probability that the EXACT SAME flop would occur. Of course, it did NOT (as anyone knows who has gotten the same hand twice in a row). So....I did a little test (which you my try yourself if you own a copy of this garbage)...
I used an empty "profile" to test my theory...
I input that I got 2d, 2h and the board was 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 of spades...
I input the same info and it told me I should expect the same flop (99% chance). In addition, it told me one opponent would (ALSO!) be holding the 2d, 2h.
I input the same a third time and it predicted the same flop and said BOTH of my opponents would be holding my SAME 2d, 2h. This would all make SOME sense if there were a finite number of bogus hands being dealt by the poker site, but obviously this is not the case, again, proven by the fact that we all have gotten the same hand twice in a row (by chance) and the flop and outcome of the hand is obviously quite different. So the bottom line is....this software IS A BIG FAT SCAM. The program merely assumes the exact same outcome for the next time you get that hand. Now, the only way I can be mistaken is if the copy I received was a "reconfigured/reprogramed" bogus one being distributed but the "real" software actually works. I highly doubt it. But, if you own a more "legitimate" copy and perform this simple test and somehow get different results, I would be happy to hear about it. Feel free to copy, share and distribute THIS info as you wish.
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post Jan 25 2007, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(eastonc @ Jan 25 2007, 01:17 PM)
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its aload of crap rng does not work it will merly nearly get one hand right with comon luck becuase if i sat next to u saying kk 4 is coming it will in time lol

i got banned from ebay for selling it (b4 i knew it was a scam) so it must be aload of crpa if ebay ban u for selling it but i wudnt mind using a pokerbot i hear they are spose to be very good anyone knw if that is true?????????? if so where i cud get a free one from? for low nl 0.05/0.10
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post Jan 30 2007, 04:15 AM
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I have been playing online action video games such as medal of honor, call of duty, battlefield 2, etc etc, for years now and I am part of an online gaming clan. We used to play competitively against other clans and for awhile we were #1 in the world with Medal of Honor. So we were serious about it. Hacking the games and cheating was a very serious issue, and one that I personally am very passionately against. I've come up with the conclusion that there was just no way to stop these cheaters from ruining the games I like to play.

I always suspected that they would want to infiltrate the online poker programs and if I think that there are people that have a hack to unfairly play cards, I will totally get out of the online game. This is my money that we are talking about. I won't cheat, I don't believe in it. This is not about trying to be smarter than the programmers, which hackers always try to claim. You are gonna have people out there that will use these hacks to STEAL money. My money. Your money. 150 years ago, you catch a card thief and you shoot him dead. There should be ZERO tolerance for this and it should be a big issue for all of us that play. I believe that this is the biggest obstacle for online poker to face. I'm not trying to be chicken little here, and I have always told people that don't know anything about online poker that it is very safe and the main poker sites would not try to cheat people. Why cheat when they make billions legally and everyone is happy?
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QUOTE(qwyrxian @ Sep 19 2006, 10:25 PM)
It reminds me of that "your computer is infected, dowload our anti-virus software" pop-up ad, that would itelf install malware that you had to pay to uninstall....
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Is it a little red message that pops up in the bottom right hand corner of your screen?

And "pay to uninstall"? I've had it on my screen for a few months and it's kind of getting annoying.


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QUOTE(zach jiganti @ Jan 30 2007, 02:01 PM)
Is it a little red message that pops up in the bottom right hand corner of your screen?

And "pay to uninstall"? I've had it on my screen for a few months and it's kind of getting annoying.
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I could be wrong, especially without knowing details, but I believe that's legit. You dont' have to use it, especially if you have a different anti-virus software. But that pop-up balloon would be the one your computer was made to tell you to use (maybe it even comes with the computers, or a trial version, or something???).

How to make it go away forever I'm not sure, but I can't imagine it being too difficult. Probably someone here or somethin on google would have a better answer.


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post Apr 2 2007, 11:25 AM
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For all those who read this: this program is a scam.

I am not a pro in programming, but I can still build very easily a (pseudo) random number generator which would require much more then the age of the universe to crack (unless there are tremendous progress in maths, like P=NP, but even if you know nothing about maths you would ear about this one)

You will be far better to use a poker tracking program (which is by no mean a cheat)
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i use poker rng 6 on SwatPoker and it works like a dream, i recorded 100 hands and it predicted 87 correct
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QUOTE(peteoaten @ Jan 18 2008, 12:57 AM)
i use poker rng 6 on SwatPoker and it works like a dream, i recorded 100 hands and it predicted 87 correct
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If we took all the one post spammers out of the database I wonder how many members we would actually have ! tongue.gif


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I've lost quite a bit of money playing online poker, the only good thing about it is more hand experience that I got and proves to be valuable in live games. I'm doing great playing strictly live ring games at the casino. I've been about 8 times in the past week & a half and the worst I've done was leaving with only $75 up. There are too many questions/theories about online poker and I wasn't successful at it anyways. So I'll just stick to the casino ring games
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QUOTE(PaulBump @ Jan 24 2008, 11:51 AM)
I've lost quite a bit of money playing online poker, the only good thing about it is more hand experience that I got and proves to be valuable in live games.  I'm doing great playing strictly live ring games at the casino.  I've been about 8 times in the past week & a half and the worst I've done was leaving with only $75 up.  There are too many questions/theories about online poker and I wasn't successful at it anyways.  So I'll just stick to the casino ring games
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If it works for you, and you have the time to go to a casino regularly, then you would be silly to play online.
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hey boys and girls. the 300$ are enourmos. i have searched long for a download site of poker rng 6.

i cant pay so much. i have found a nice page there were poker rng selled for 50 €.

you can pay via paypal and download the poker software directly after payment.

thats beautiful, instead of 300dollar biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

the page are www.poker-cheats.org
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