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 mistake reading the board, Palinya, 30. Dec 2003 12:32 | ||
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| Yesterday I made a really bad mistake, so bad I couldn't believe it. Basically I thought I had a great hand with my set but I had misread the board and missed a straight possibility. I ended up reraising on the river twice before I figured out I had missed it. I started playing in October and I had done this once before too after only playing a couple weeks. I felt that by now I wouldn't make such horrible mistakes as this especially after the first time I did it. Both times I did it, the other person needed gapped cards not connecting cards (there were no connecting cards on the board) and I was holding a set. I was at the end of a 20 hour marathon session but other than this play, I was still making money and I felt that I was still playing solid. This same thing happened to an opponent of mine about 8 hours earlier. Board was 5678 and he had a 9. He reraised me 4-5 times (heads-up) before he figured out I was holding 9T. This guy wasn't the greatest player in the world but he wasn't the worst either and I was surprised he made that mistake. In both cases the person who made the mistake was very embarrassed as you could imagine... I was just wondering if any of the better players still occassionally misread the board ever. I know that it wouldn't happen that much but is there ever a once a year type of mistake that you make that just leaves you amazed that you could have been so stupid? If not anymore, did this ever happen to you in your first six months to a year of playing when you had less experience? I can tell myself that it was because I was at the end of 20 hour session but the truth is I wasn't really feeling tired and other than that play I was still making money and playing tight and I didn't feel like I could misread a board so horribly. So which one is it... A) I'm an idiot B) I'm just inexperienced. Everyone has made a couple of these mistakes when starting. C) Very, very occassionally even experienced people just make mistakes reading the board... you see dealers do it occassionally and they spend hours and hours figuring out top hand every day. | ||
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| Re: mistake reading the board, Highflyin3484k, 30. Dec 2003 12:35 | ||
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| Definately choice A lol Im just kidding its definately C, EVERYONE misreads once in a while. I was re-watching the thanxgiving day pokermillion (for the 5 billionth time) and TJ cloutier misread his hand, not noticing he had a flush, as he almost threw his cards in the muck when his bet was called by phil hellmuth | ||
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| Re: mistake reading the board, Raodwarior, 30. Dec 2003 12:40 | ||
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| I'll go with C...LOL Having played for almost 20 yrs, I have occasionally screwed up reading a board. Normally when some miracle card hits my hand and I make a move at the pot before I really study the board and find out that it helped someone more. It is a rare occurrence but it has and does happen. Chalk one up for cocktail conversation and learn to laugh about it, just make sure to learn for the error. | ||
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| Re: mistake reading the board, starstealer, 30. Dec 2003 12:43 | ||
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| Most of mine have been in Omaha8, but there's much more to consider there. I had a situation where I had KK96 and the board was something like KJT96 and I was raising the turn and river like crazy. Suddenly when the guy capped the river, it occured to me that I didn't have the KKK99 boat and instead had the trips. The guy raising me had the nut straight. It happens. Hopefully it won't be for as much as I lost on that hand. Luckily that was early in a tournament and I was able to make up for it. | ||
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| Re: mistake reading the board, Blazman, 30. Dec 2003 12:45 | ||
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| Yeah it's happened to me before. I made a straight not realizing that It made someone else a flush. After 20 hrs. you really can expect to make a mistake like this. -blaz | ||
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| Re: mistake reading the board, R4, 30. Dec 2003 12:57 | ||
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| C for sure - only we don't admit it. It happens all the time - players are so focused on thier own hand they fail to see str8's and less commonly flushes on the board. In addition, players will muck made str8's and flushes and don't even known it. Therefore, no one really knows how ofetn it occurs. We only know it when we misread the board and don't fold. on 30. Dec 2003 12:32 Palinya wrote: > Yesterday I made a really bad mistake, so bad I couldn't believe it. Basically > I thought I had a great hand with my set but I had misread the board and missed > a straight possibility. I ended up reraising on the river twice before I > figured out I had missed it. I started playing in October and I had done this > once before too after only playing a couple weeks. I felt that by now I > wouldn't make such horrible mistakes as this especially after the first time I > did it. Both times I did it, the other person needed gapped cards not > connecting cards (there were no connecting cards on the board) and I was holding > a set. I was at the end of a 20 hour marathon session but other than this play, > I was still making money and I felt that I was still playing solid. > > This same thing happened to an opponent of mine about 8 hours earlier. Board > was 5678 and he had a 9. He reraised me 4-5 times (heads-up) before he figured > out I was holding 9T. This guy wasn't the greatest player in the world but he > wasn't the worst either and I was surprised he made that mistake. > > In both cases the person who made the mistake was very embarrassed as you could > imagine... > > I was just wondering if any of the better players still occassionally misread > the board ever. I know that it wouldn't happen that much but is there ever a > once a year type of mistake that you make that just leaves you amazed that you > could have been so stupid? If not anymore, did this ever happen to you in your > first six months to a year of playing when you had less experience? > > I can tell myself that it was because I was at the end of 20 hour session but > the truth is I wasn't really feeling tired and other than that play I was still > making money and playing tight and I didn't feel like I could misread a board so > horribly. > > So which one is it... > > A) I'm an idiot > B) I'm just inexperienced. Everyone has made a couple of these mistakes when > starting. > C) Very, very occassionally even experienced people just make mistakes reading > the board... you see dealers do it occassionally and they spend hours and hours > figuring out top hand every day. | ||
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| Re: mistake reading the board, Blue Sky, 30. Dec 2003 14:06 | ||
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| You think thats bad, the other night after a couple of bad beats in succession (pocket A's cracked by turn and river 2's to a calling station with J2o and flopped straight losing to runner runner flush to same said calling station,) on the next hand I mucked my AK on the river when my opponent declared two pair....I failed to notice the board had paired the 1st and 5th card and was on tilt enough to be steaming mad and not paying enough attention....This is the 2nd time I have done this in the last 7 or so months...Something I'll be working on in the new year. We all misread the board or our hand, especially in the later stages of a marathon session. Live and learn, I guess. | ||
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| Re: mistake reading the board, pat_henry, 3. Jan 2004 12:47 | ||
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| I'm fairly new but not usually this dumb: I just sat down at 5-10 table and in my second hand I had an Ace high flush draw. There was a real nice pot already built when I caught my 5th heart at river, just heads up then. I bet out and was raised, and then a raising war ensued ... about 6 total raises. You guessed it ... lost to a low card straight flush. I wish I could have crawled under the table then. Just zoned out loving my ace high flush and thought my opponent looked like an aggressive loose cannon --- learned to be careful with my first impressions and I always check for the straight flush when bet into with ace high! (i lost $147 that time but got a free t-shirt that night -- I call it my "147 dollar lesson" shirt). | ||
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| Re: mistake reading the board, Kenny, 4. Jan 2004 01:36 | ||
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| it happens. I was playing a NL game online and a actually caught a gutshot straight on the turn for the nut straight! so blinded was i, i didn't see the pair hit the river. went all in and got beat by 4 of a kind. felt really stupid after that one. | ||
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| Re: mistake reading the board, duquedelsol, 4. Jan 2004 07:00 | ||
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| Even after all of my praising the 4 color deck - I actually missed a FLUSH poss about 3 days ago...I hadn't been playing that long - but guessed I wasn't as on top of my game as I should have been - so I quit then and there... My thinking - mistakes are going to happen - especially online (don't remember if/whether you said this was BnM or online)...its how you react (or - sometime more correctly - don't react) that define you as a player... | ||
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