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 Some Single Table questions, SeanCandy, 30. Dec 2003 08:22 | ||
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| I was playing a single table tourney last night and we were down to 4 handed play. The player to my right had everyone at the table outchipped by about 3 to 1. The player to my right is also quite aggressive. I was trying to stay out of the way when the other two small stacks were going against each other or the big stack. What are some strategies to deal with this situation? I was able to deal with the players to my left. But with the threat of the big stack being able to call me all in at any point and not getting any really good starting hands and the blinds starting to eat away at me I made my move with A8 The big stack called me and unfortunately had A10 to take me out. | ||
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| Re: Some Single Table questions, Highflyin3484k, 30. Dec 2003 08:31 | ||
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| Unfortunately thats the common tale of a short stack vs. a large stack, the shorter your stack gets, the weaker the hands he will call your all-in with. It sounds like you waited for the best opporturnity you could (usually just an ace is good enough for most players). You did the correct thing though trying to make a stand with this hand though, you cannot wait around and get blinded off waiting for AQ, AK or a pair to go in with. you have to be aggressive. | ||
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| Re: Some Single Table questions, SeanCandy, 30. Dec 2003 08:51 | ||
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| I'm thinking it is almost always better to raise when you get to this point in a tourney in hopes that the other 3 didnt catch anything and just fold. Against a big stack though, would it sometimes be better to just call the BB in certain situations to potentially see a flop and then play it from there? | ||
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| Re: Some Single Table questions, Highflyin3484k, 30. Dec 2003 08:58 | ||
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| that depends on your stack... alot of people will say no... all-in or fold. I would def. agree with that theory if you have 5x BB or less. Say you have 2400 and blinds are 200/400, if your going to limp with a hand it needs to be in LP with other limpers and you need a strong hand... now is not the time to be cute and limp with 5 6s. | ||
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| Re: Some Single Table questions, KevinK, 31. Dec 2003 01:10 | ||
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| I agree. Tom Mcevoy wrote a great article about that. To play comfortably, you should have a stack of 10 times the BB. If you have 7, maybe 8 times, consider going all in. Anything less, definitely go all in and hope your hand holds up. | ||
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| Re: Some Single Table questions, Aisthesis, 30. Dec 2003 09:10 | ||
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| I in principle agree with Highflyin, but with a few qualifications. My general rule of thumb is to either fold or raise 4 x BB unless I'm in one of the blinds. If 4xBB essentially has you committed to all-in, though, you might as well go all in. However, if I have, say, 3,000 in chips and the blinds are at 150/300, I wouldn't go all in on a good starting hand (A8 is in my opinion just fine in a 4 player game) but rather just 1,200. The only situation in which I would consider merely calling is in SB with an acceptable but not a raising hand--something like T8 maybe. Basically, if you're in SB and everyone has folded to you, then it's really just a heads up game for the moment between you and BB. And in my opinion, there are plenty of hands (such as the T8 and many others) on which I would just limp in a heads up--but you do have to be very aware of how BB plays and adjust your own play accordingly. | ||
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| Re: Some Single Table questions, Highflyin3484k, 30. Dec 2003 09:18 | ||
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| Agreed Aisthesis, here you have a little more maneuvering room with 10BB's, but not much | ||
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| Re: Some Single Table questions, peter palladas, 30. Dec 2003 10:22 | ||
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| If you mean Big Stack had three times as many chips as you other three put together, then I'd be inclined to play tight and hope the other short stacks go belly-up before you do ~ especially if there is only money waiting for the top two. Big Stack is gonna feel pretty happy to whack any bet, cos he will probably win through in the end. If, however, you three together have about the same number of chips as BS, then he is probably going to want to be pretty tight himself thinking "So near after such a fight and yet who knows what a couple of hard hits would do? I could yet lose this." He's probably thinking that it took him some considerable skill to get so far and blowed if he's gonna be busted by a 6-4 off all-in that flukes a st8. Then you might be able to fire off a couple of iffy all-ins and grab some chips. If you can match a pre-flop raise by yourself with a flop that looks as if it might be a monster, then I'd be inclined to play it as if you have that monster hand. You may hit a wall but at least you tried:) A-8 is a decent hand to go down fighting on in any case: I'd much rather lose betting anytime than wait to be cut down by the blinds. | ||
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