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 More Omaha8 advice needed., Eman, 29. Dec 2003 12:16 | ||
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| Ok, I admit it. Im an Omahalic. Im hooked on this game and thats pretty much all i have been playing lately. I love and hate the way I play, but im still a novice at this game. I love it because at the lowlimit passive tables i play, its Easy Money. I hate it because its boring and theres no psychological aspects to my style of play. But until I get better, im sticking to my tight play. I need advice: 1. I never draw to the nut low if only one low comes out on the flop. Should i start calling one bet to see the turn? 2. Should I call a raise with a high pair and 23? ie. QQ23. Lately Ive been folding these hands to a preflop raise. 3. What should I do with a hand like 3456? Ive been folding this. 4. Ive been limping in with any A2xx. Is that OK. 5. Should I limp in with any Ace suited hand. For example: Ac9cJh7d. Ive been folding this hand preflop. 6. Ive kept track of my stats for the past few sessions and I see about 15% of the flops. Is that toooooo tight? | ||
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| Re: More Omaha8 advice needed., starstealer, 29. Dec 2003 12:45 | ||
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| Comments Interspersed: on 29. Dec 2003 12:16 Eman wrote: > 1. I never draw to the nut low if only one low comes out on the flop. Should > i start calling one bet to see the turn? If the only draw you have is a runner-runner to a low, get out! (most likely it is not the ONLY thing you have, but if that's the strong part of your hand, get out now.) > > 2. Should I call a raise with a high pair and 23? ie. QQ23. Lately Ive been > folding these hands to a preflop raise. This is mostly a judgement call. With a raise ahead of you, someone is probably holding an A2 or better, so the only low you should look for is if an A falls on the flop. On the high side you want a set or boat to continue > > 3. What should I do with a hand like 3456? Ive been folding this. Probably a good idea most of the time. It is only good IF an A2 and a small card come off, and then you take the whole thing. The key here is to hit both the A2 on the flop if you want to continue - this is a hand you want to see cheaply and get out early IF you play it - folding it most of the time is probably a good idea. > > 4. Ive been limping in with any A2xx. Is that OK. In most cases, that's fine, even admirable. If the A2 has another wheel card or double-suited or some other feature, I like raising it, especially in early position. I make all kinds of play with this hand. > > 5. Should I limp in with any Ace suited hand. For example: Ac9cJh7d. > Ive been folding this hand preflop. This particular hand, I would fold. See my above comment for A2. If the hand has other features, go to town with it, otherwise, get away. > > 6. Ive kept track of my stats for the past few sessions and I see about 15% of > the flops. Is that toooooo tight? Mine hovers in the 30-35% range, but there is a LOT of shorthanded play in there, which changes things dramatically. At a full 9-10 person table, I'm right in at 20%. | ||
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| Re: More Omaha8 advice needed., Eman, 29. Dec 2003 13:00 | ||
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| thnaks for the reply.. Most of my play has been at a full table. 15% at a full table is kinda tight I guess. | ||
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| Re: More Omaha8 advice needed., Highflyin3484k, 29. Dec 2003 13:45 | ||
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| well once again I agree with you star stealer, I will add something about the suited ace, I dont like to play many pots with A 3, but if I have an ace suited with a 3 I will limp, if two of your suit fall you could very easily find your self drawing to both the high and low hand. I too will limp with just about every A2 hand, and dump if flop brings no help. your first question, definately NEVER chase a runner-runner low (unless of course you get to check it lol). I sometimes get on the 100/200 play money tables at Pokerstars.com to pass the time and I play with a guy named Eman quite a bit, that isnt you by any chance is it... (have a little cartoon guy for your picture)? | ||
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| Re: More Omaha8 advice needed., Big_Slick, 29. Dec 2003 18:39 | ||
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| > 4. Ive been limping in with any A2xx. Is that OK. In most cases, that's fine, even admirable. If the A2 has another wheel card or double-suited or some other feature, I like raising it, especially in early position. I make all kinds of play with this hand. I don't see the benefit of an EP raise here. The idea with A2 is to get as many callers as possible In case you flop a low. The same theory applies to double-suited cards like A-x. If you hit your flush, you want a lot of people in the pot. The time to become aggressive is after your hand is made. I have been known to raise in LP with A-2. In LP... 1. Most players will pay the additional bet to continue with the hand 2. You're adding money and not driving it out with your extra bet 3. You're in a much more favorable position In case the flop misses Just my thoughts. | ||
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| Re: More Omaha8 advice needed., starstealer, 30. Dec 2003 06:46 | ||
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| on 29. Dec 2003 18:39 Big_Slick wrote: > > 4. Ive been limping in with any A2xx. Is that OK. > In most cases, that's fine, even admirable. If the A2 has another wheel card or > double-suited or some other feature, I like raising it, especially in early position. I > make all kinds of play with this hand. > > I don't see the benefit of an EP raise here. The idea with A2 is to get as many callers > as possible In case you flop a low. The same theory applies to double-suited cards like > A-x. If you hit your flush, you want a lot of people in the pot. The time to become > aggressive is after your hand is made. > > I have been known to raise in LP with A-2. In LP... > 1. Most players will pay the additional bet to continue with the hand > 2. You're adding money and not driving it out with your extra bet > 3. You're in a much more favorable position In case the flop misses > > Just my thoughts. Actually, I want to highlight what I was trying to say here - 'I make all kinds of plays with these kinds of hands' - meaning I vary my play widely with them. I limp with them and I raise when I think I can get more out of them. I agree a raise for value in LP is nicer than an EP raise, but sometimes the EP raise is warranted - especially at a table of maniacs or calling stations (and those happen all too frequently) - but of course the expectation here is not to drive people out but rather to just increase the pot size. | ||
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| Re: More Omaha8 advice needed., Big_Slick, 30. Dec 2003 06:54 | ||
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| Maniacs and calling stations go broke very quickly at Omaha. The luck factor is much smaller than in hold 'em. I love these types of players and want them around when i hit the nuts. | ||
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