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 10/20 at the Belle, FeliciaLee, 23. Dec 2003 08:30 | ||
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| Saturday, December 13, 2003 I said I wasn't going to play in the 10/20 anymore, didn't I? I said I wasn't going to play cash games at all anymore, unless I had no choice, or needed advanced seating for the tourneys, right? LOL. For whatever reason, I felt obligated to play the 10/20 on Saturday, because Moz was in town and staying at the hotel with nothing to do. That doesn't make my decision right, to play out of a feeling of obligation, but there ya go. I had to wait forever for the game. We were late coming into the cardroom, due to other commitments. To my surprise, Moz was also not in any game. He was back on the 10/20 list, but he wasn't seated. He said he'd played about six hours worth of 10/20, but that he'd needed a nap and left the table. Once you leave that table, getting back in his tough, especially when the drawings start. We talked for a long time. He decided to put his name on the 4/8 list, as well, since the 10/20 game wasn't moving at all. He sat patiently, not overly anxious to get into a game. In that way, he is like me. Glenn, however, played in several of the games, right from the time we walked into the door. I can't ever imagine Glenn sitting with us at an empty table, chatting about poker. Play, play, play...he must play! He has to be in the action! I finally got my 4/8 seat. We were playing with a full kill, which seems to be the norm lately. I was up and down, but no huge fluctuations, until my AA got cracked by KQo. Blah! I managed to scratch and claw my way back to even, although I did get outdrawn by a couple of miracle rivers. By the time my name was called for the 10/20, after 10pm, I was $40 up. One of my first hands in the 10/20 was KK. I raised, got a couple of callers. The flop was low, I bet, got one caller. He was weak, and I knew it. Maybe a medium pocket pair, two overcards? I don't know, but he was weak. I never looked at the board, only his eyes, which he was trying to hide from my by looking down. He's no dummy, lol. I saw a face card peripherally, but didn't realize it was a king until he called my river bet and I had to show. He mucked without showing, and I didn't even care to see what he had. I had a good read on this guy. In the BB, I was dealt pocket nines. It was raised once. I put the raiser on overcards, but wasn't quite sure. He bet out when a jack hit the flop, but it seemed more like an auto-bet, not a bet because he had hit. I called. He chickened out on the turn and I got a free card. The river brought no more help, I bet out, and he reluctantly called with ace-high. My nines took it. He had AQo. Later, I raised BTF with TT. The flop came rags, and I bet all the way, to be called in many places. Probably that was my biggest pot of the evening. My bad streak with pocket aces continued. I raised before the flop, to be called in only three places. One was Moz. He was in the SB, so it was $15 to him. Chuck, a very loose/weak player, called two bets on the button. Glenn was in the BB, so it was only $10 to him. The flop came scary: KQJ, two diamonds. I knew I was beat when Moz three bet me. He is still kind of new, and it was pretty transparent to me that he had AT, even if that put three aces already out. I knew, at the very least, he had T9, but I couldn't see him calling a raise from the SB, out of position, so I put him on AT. Glenn folded in the BB. Chuck called all three bets. It's hard to put Chuck on a hand, because it truly could be anything. I concentrated on Moz. The turn paired the queen, and this time Chuck raised. I had to put him on three queens, at the very least. Chuck is the kind of player whom I could see overlooking a straight possibility, and believing his trips to be best. He might also be full, but I knew he had at least trips. I mucked on the river, when my aces went unimproved. Moz had ATs, for the flopped straight. Chuck had KQ, for the full house. I found out later that Glenn had ace-rag, so I was drawing pretty slim. Who knew! I'm 0:3 on pocket aces now. I'm not sure if I played those aces 100% correctly. The pot was so big after the flop that I felt I had odds to chase. I am going to go backwards and do the math, to see if I made any fundamental errors, since all I have been hearing on some poker forums lately is how completely horribly that I play. Some of the flames I can dismiss as children who flame virtually everyone. But if there is a lot of smoke, there may be some fire. I need to be sure. (PS: I just did the math, and my initial suspicion was correct, I didn't have odds to chase, even with four players seeing the flop. Doh! Back to some heavy reading for me.) After the last drawing at midnight, I started to get that itchy feeling and wanted to go home. Believe it or not, I still ended the session up $220. Not bad for just 1.5 hours play. Felicia :) | ||
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| Re: 10/20 at the Belle, MozMan, 23. Dec 2003 15:22 | ||
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| Hey Felicia- on 23. Dec 2003 08:30 FeliciaLee wrote: > Saturday, December 13, 2003 > > For whatever reason, I felt obligated to play the 10/20 on Saturday, because > Moz was in town and staying at the hotel with nothing to do. That doesn't make > my decision right, to play out of a feeling of obligation, but there ya go. I hope you know I will be back first chance I get. It may be a while, as I am in contract to buy a house so there is a LOT to do over the next month or two. But when I do come back, I don't want you to feel obligated to play just because I'm there. I do enjoy the conversation, though, so I would be willing to stop playing for a couple hours to chat over a meal or something. > My bad streak with pocket aces continued. I raised before the flop, to be > called in only three places. One was Moz. He was in the SB, so it was $15 to > him. Chuck, a very loose/weak player, called two bets on the button. Glenn was > in the BB, so it was only $10 to him. > Ahh, yes, I remember this hand well... :^) > The flop came scary: KQJ, two diamonds. I knew I was beat when Moz three bet > me. He is still kind of new, and it was pretty transparent to me that he had > AT, Yes, I wanted EVERYONE to know I had a made hand at that point. I had the straight, but knew it could be very fragile if the board paired; especially with Chuck in the hand. I also knew you were on Aces and was afraid my ten could counterfit to chop the pot. I really wanted to take the pot right then and there, so my tactic was to make it as expensive as I could manage to see the turn. > even if that put three aces already out. I knew, at the very least, he had > T9, but I couldn't see him calling a raise from the SB, out of position, so I > put him on AT. Glenn folded in the BB. Chuck called all three bets. > > It's hard to put Chuck on a hand, because it truly could be anything. I > concentrated on Moz. The turn paired the queen, and this time Chuck raised. I > had to put him on three queens, at the very least. Chuck is the kind of player > whom I could see overlooking a straight possibility, and believing his trips to > be best. He might also be full, but I knew he had at least trips. Yeah, I figured he filled up here too, but there was way too much in the pot to lay down as I figured he was even money to play two-pair or trips as hard as the boat. I was getting much more than even money to make the crying call on his raise and river bet. > > I mucked on the river, when my aces went unimproved. Moz had ATs, for the > flopped straight. Chuck had KQ, for the full house. > > I found out later that Glenn had ace-rag, so I was drawing pretty slim. Who > knew! I'm 0:3 on pocket aces now. > > I'm not sure if I played those aces 100% correctly. The pot was so big after > the flop that I felt I had odds to chase. I am going to go backwards and do the > math, to see if I made any fundamental errors, since all I have been hearing on > some poker forums lately is how completely horribly that I play. Some of the > flames I can dismiss as children who flame virtually everyone. But if there is > a lot of smoke, there may be some fire. I need to be sure. > > (PS: I just did the math, and my initial suspicion was correct, I didn't have > odds to chase, even with four players seeing the flop. Doh! Back to some heavy > reading for me.) This is why I like AK better. It's much easier to lay down when it doesn't improve and I lose less with it when I do lose. There's a good chance I would have chased without odds too, because AA is too easy to fall in love with. All in all, I don't think you played them badly, though you might consider letting go if you are convinced you are against a made hand. > > After the last drawing at midnight, I started to get that itchy feeling and > wanted to go home. Believe it or not, I still ended the session up $220. Not > bad for just 1.5 hours play. > > Felicia :) -Moz -"I'm jealous of girls, because they get to wear dresses." -"One problem at a time, son." | ||
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| Re: 10/20 at the Belle, FeliciaLee, 24. Dec 2003 09:47 | ||
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| Ty, Moz. I know I wasn't obligated, but I felt like it, which is my own hangup. Go figure! Felicia :) | ||
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| Re: 10/20 at the Belle, MozMan, 24. Dec 2003 10:18 | ||
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| That's cool! Just making sure we are on the same page. :) Keep in mind, in all the time I've been playing B&M poker, that was the first time I ever played with someone I "know" at the the table, so I'm not hung up about playing with a bunch of strangers. I think I generally play better that way anyway. :) -Moz -"I'm jealous of girls, because they get to wear dresses." -"One problem at a time, son." | ||
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