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I'm new to tournaments...need some tips, ScanX, 22. Dec 2003 01:34
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Hi,

I've started to play a few Sit&Go's recently (5$+0.50$ Fixed Limit) and doing fairly ok (finished 2 times 3rd, 1 time 2nd and 2 times 1st out of 8 or 9 tries)

My only Holdem knowledge comes from Lee Jones' book 'Winning Texas Holdem' but I've had the feeling that tournaments are played way more differently than ring.

I was wondering how I was supposed to play it properly...play weaker hands in the start ? in the end ? never ??

I also have the feeling I have a problem when I only have 1, 2 or maybe 3 opponents left. Whenever they bet or raise me and I have a 'not so good' hand, I fold cause I fear. Any tips ?

For the litterature :

At the moment I play :

- Sit&Go Fixed Limit $5+$0.50
- Ring Fixed Limit $0.25/$0.50

Are there some books I should read concerning tournament or just holdem poker in general (I'm planning to keep playing ring too) ?
"Tournament Poker for Advanced Players" by David Sklansky ?
"Hold'Em Poker for Advanced Players" by David Sklansky ?
"The Theory of Poker" by David Sklansky ?
"Doyle Brunson's Super System" ?

Which one would you recommend in first place ?
Does "Tournament Poker for Advanced Players" require to play PL or NL tournaments or is it ok for Fixed Limit ?

As a new player do I have to stick to Fixed Limit for a long time before switching to PL or NL ?

Thanx in advance

ScanX
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Re: I'm new to tournaments...need some tips, Shawn S., 24. Dec 2003 13:30
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Hey Scan, congrats on the good results so far in your sit&go's. All the books you mentioned are excellent and well worth the purchase. I recommend reading Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players first out of your list. Tournament Poker for AP by Sklansky has valuable information for playing all tournaments, whether they are big bet or fixed limit, as well as all games(holdem, stud, omaha). It's written in the intro that the book assumes you already play good poker, as the name implies it is for advanced players. :) Hope I was some help,
Shawn S.
WinnersTable.com
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Re: I'm new to tournaments...need some tips, Daniel, 25. Dec 2003 13:53
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If you do venture into Pot-Limit or No-Limit, "Championship No Limit Hold 'Em and Pot Limit Hold 'Em" by Cloutier is very very well respected.
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Re: I'm new to tournaments...need some tips, stdioh, 26. Dec 2003 19:58
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Playing Lee Jones will not hold you in good stead for tournaments. The theory is the same, but some important details drastically change things.

First, you're playing no limit, so your hands have much higher implied odds. That means that hands like 56s go up in value while hands like TT go down in value. Something like AK goes up in value too, simply because you can protect your own hand when you get there by making large bets. Likewise when you play your suited connectors, etc, you won't need the big pot odds to draw to your hand so long as you're with an opponent who'll call you down when you get there.

You can bluff more in no limit tournament play. You can steal more. You can slowplay more heads up, again because of the implied odds.

Most importantly though, the big difference is at the end of the tournament when it becomes shorthanded. All of a sudden, drawing hands lose a lot of value and made hands gain a lot of value. 4-handed, A9o is a very decent hand and should most often be raised while 56s is something that you pretty much always chuck in the muck (unless you want to try stealing with it and adding the deceptive value if you get called and manage to make a hand with it).

Shorthanded play means raising a lot of hands and folding a lot of hands and very rarely limping. It means being the agressor, having a great hand, or getting out of the pot.

Sklansky does a decent job of giving strategy for tournaments in his tournament book, but there is no substitute for experience.

Keep reading and keep playing the microlimit tourneys and you ought to get there in no time.
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Re: I'm new to tournaments...need some tips, ScanX, 27. Dec 2003 16:34
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I play Fixed Limit Sit&Go actually :)

Thanx for the tips anyway, that mostly the way I'm playing at the moment :
very aggressive short-handed and giving good credits to hands like A9o as u gave as example.
It pays off really well as I nearly always place top 3 in a 9 players Sit&Go...maybe I'm just lucky at the moment though :)

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