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 AA beats AK, iceman5, 20. Dec 2003 19:54 | ||
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| Did I miss any bets here? UTG raises. A MP calls the raise. Im on the button with AA. I reraise. The UTG caps. The MP folds and I call. The flop comes K94. He bets, I raise, he reraises. Im afraid he has KK so I only call the reraise. The turn and river are blanks and he bets both and I call both. He has AK and I win. Was I correct to slow down and just call the turn and river? | ||
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| Re: AA beats AK, Mikewad, 20. Dec 2003 22:34 | ||
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| According to the fundamental theorum of poker you were incorrect in check calling when you had the best hand. But its hard to say if I would have done it differently ! Good Luck ! | ||
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| Re: AA beats AK, Roy Cooke, 20. Dec 2003 23:36 | ||
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| Hi Iceman If he would play AK and KK the same way he is 2-1 favorite to have AK.....If you are going to pay off a reraise on the turn (or river) you are giving up 2-1....If you are going to fold if reraised ( You would HAVE to be sure) then I can make a slight case for raising....But in most cases I would fear the KK as he played the hand VERY strong...I think I would make the same decision as you unless he was a VERY aggressive player with top pair! Life is Good :-) Roy Cooke on 20. Dec 2003 19:54 iceman5 wrote: > Did I miss any bets here? UTG raises. A MP calls the raise. Im on the button > with AA. I reraise. The UTG caps. The MP folds and I call. The flop comes > K94. He bets, I raise, he reraises. Im afraid he has KK so I only call the > reraise. The turn and river are blanks and he bets both and I call both. He > has AK and I win. Was I correct to slow down and just call the turn and river? | ||
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| Re: AA beats AK, Andrew Wells, 20. Dec 2003 23:55 | ||
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| The question of whether you missed any bets depends on how the middle position player may have acted having seen the flop. You chose to reraise with AA, and the subsequent action from the player UTG resulted in heads-up post flop play. It is possible you may have achieved a larger net from the pot if you had smooth called preflop. Since we don't know what would have happened then, and you would have increased the probability of something catching up to AA - I don't disagree with any of your choices. | ||
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| Re: AA beats AK, Flakes, 21. Dec 2003 06:55 | ||
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| First, why does everyone always fear the worst? Second, you were afraid that he had 3 kings so you just called on the turn and the river - if so, then why didn't you fold? If you trust your reads, you should react to them. You didn't mention if the player was a total rock or not, but unless he was, in that spot you will see him turn over AK far more times then you will see them turn over KK. Flakes | ||
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| Re: AA beats AK, pat_henry, 21. Dec 2003 09:27 | ||
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| I'm fairly new so my reasoning may be wrong here. One reply said a raise was the right play and if reraised you can consider folding -- isn't that exactly why the check-call at turn/river is a good play? The guy did make it 4 bets preflop so he's either AK or KK. Depending on the limits and player, it is very likely youll get reraised at turn. Then what do you do? Seems as if youre in even a tougher bind then. If you lay down, then you mucked the top hand which vis obviously the wrong play. Ty (newbie) | ||
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| Re: AA beats AK, MozMan, 21. Dec 2003 09:53 | ||
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| on 20. Dec 2003 19:54 iceman5 wrote: > Did I miss any bets here? UTG raises. A MP calls the raise. Im on the button > with AA. I reraise. The UTG caps. The MP folds and I call. The flop comes > K94. He bets, I raise, he reraises. Im afraid he has KK so I only call the > reraise. The turn and river are blanks and he bets both and I call both. He > has AK and I win. Was I correct to slow down and just call the turn and river? This may be another situation where it is helpful to try to understand what your opponent was thinking. He has an Ace in his hands, so he understands that it is very unlikely that you have two. He catches top-pair, top-kicker, and thinks it's much more likely that you caught a pair of Ks too, and is trying to figure out if he has you out-kicked or if he will chop the pot with you. This all explains his behavior, now how do handle him? It really depends on your read. He's much more likely to have AK than KK, so as long as you are getting 2:1, you can put in your bets. If you somehow "know" he's on KK, then fold. Overall, I think you played it the best you could have given the situation. -Moz "Humility isn't actually humility unless you're good enough at something to be humble." | ||
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| Re: AA beats AK, Aisthesis, 23. Dec 2003 11:34 | ||
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| On flop and beyond I really like your play. You have a very good hand with the vulnerability you mentioned, and I would be hesitant to push it any harder with the KK possibility alive. But if I'm understanding you correctly, you just called the last pre-flop bet. In my opinion, with AA (or for that matter KK), getting as much in the pot as possible pre-flop is always the way to go. Actually, I think he already bet his AK too strongly pre-flop. It's a drawing hand. If it was NL, I would have probably gone all-in pre-flop in response to the first re-raise. And in limit (where I really have no business giving any advice anyway, but here I don't see why there would be any difference), I would have always put in the maximum possible raise when holding AA. At that point in the game, you have the best possible hand, with enormously favorable odds to win against anything your opponent might have. Once the flop showed up, I think your play was completely appropriate. | ||
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| Re: AA beats AK, iceman5, 23. Dec 2003 15:07 | ||
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| He capped the betting preflop. There are no more raises allowed. If it was NL, I wouldve gone all in also. | ||
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