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 Late NL Tourney strategy, iceman5, 20. Dec 2003 14:17 | ||
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| I have just recently started playing multi table tourneys after concentrating on SNGs for a while. I played 10 in the past 2 weeks and placed in the money in 4 of them. That seems pretty good to me..is it? My question is: what strategic changes do I need to make after getting in the money? All 4 of these times, I made thee money with an average stack of around 5000-7000. The blinds were around 300/600 with small antees of about $25. Every time I was being quickly blinded down. When I tried to steal a blind or two, I got called and lost a decent chunk after getting my flop bet called. When I play SNG's the blinds dont become a problem until there is only 3 or 4 people left and I havent figured out hot to make the transition to bigger tournies yet. Can someone help me out? | ||
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| Re: Late NL Tourney strategy, blisterfoot, 20. Dec 2003 15:36 | ||
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| Depends on how many people left, what your relative stack size is, and how e1 else is playing. You didn't specify, so it's kind of hard to advise, but... If you've reached the final table, look and see how your stack compares. If there are a couple of stacks smaller than yours, you should probably rock up and play only premium hands--the blinds will kill the shorter stacks faster than you, and you can finish higher up in the money without doing anything at all. If you do get premium cards, play them aggressively. This tight strategy is definitely right if other players are being aggressive--let the bigger stacks take out the small stacks, and maybe even each other if you're lucky. Don't try to steal pots unless you really know your opponents. If the rest of the table is playing super-tight, you can relax this strategy and try to steal some blinds, but don't commit to a pot unless you can win it. Now, if you're the smallest stack at the table and the blinds are killing you, that changes things. You're pretty much obligated to play a little more aggressively, particularly if other players at the table have tightened up. If you only have enough money left to post a few blinds, you'll need to pick a hand go for it--wait for some high cards (in LP preferably) and get your money in the pot early. But if your stack is 5000-7000 and the blinds are 300/600, you're really not in that much of a rush--you can last 5-7 times around the table! You can be a little more patient and wait for better cards to gamble with. One last note--pay attention to the payout structure. If outlasting one or two people will put you significantly higher in the money, be more conservative. If you're in 10th place and spots 6-10 all get payed the same, be more aggressive, you have nothing to lose. good luck | ||
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| Re: Late NL Tourney strategy, iceman5, 20. Dec 2003 16:22 | ||
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| I havent made a final table yet. I was referring to a situation where I have just made the money. In a tourney with 600 people, the top 60 people usually pays at PokerStars. It doesnt pay much though. Usually about double the entry fee. Ive been in this situation where there are 55-60 left and I have about an average stack and then it goes in the toilet from there when I start getting blinded down and Im not sure how aggressive to be. | ||
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| Re: Late NL Tourney strategy, blisterfoot, 21. Dec 2003 13:17 | ||
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| OK, that helps. Again, it depends on the payout structure, how concentrated the money is at the top. If #30-60 all get paid about the same, and you really have to make the final table to get a significant payoff, then you do want to take some chances to try build your stack high enough to have a shot at the real money. If you fail and bust out at 60 instead of 30, no great loss to you, the $$ is about the same. But still, pick your spots--don't commit your entire stack on a bluff unless you're sure it will work. But if it's a "wider" payout structure, where the money isn't as concentrated in the top few spots, then it may be in your interest to play tighter and wait for premium cards to play--just sit back and watch the other players knock each other out, increasing your payday. I know you're worried about the blinds eating you up, but if you really have an average stack of 5000-7000 and blinds are 330/600, then you have a reasonable cushion. If you didn't play a single hand, you could last through 50-70 hands! So even if e1 else is playing their tightest game (which they won't be), your medium stack will outlast half the field, increasing your payday with zero risk. And if you do catch some premium cards and win some pots, you'll still have a shot at the big money. That's what i'd do. On the other hand, i'm a newbie, so maybe you should get a second opinion! | ||
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| Re: Late NL Tourney strategy, blisterfoot, 21. Dec 2003 13:18 | ||
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| OK, that helps. Again, it depends on the payout structure, how concentrated the money is at the top. If #30-60 all get paid about the same, and you really have to make the final table to get a significant payoff, then you do want to take some chances to try build your stack high enough to have a shot at the real money. If you fail and bust out at 60 instead of 30, no great loss to you, the $$ is about the same. But still, pick your spots--don't commit your entire stack on a bluff unless you're sure it will work. But if it's a "wider" payout structure, where the money isn't as concentrated in the top few spots, then it may be in your interest to play tighter and wait for premium cards to play--just sit back and watch the other players knock each other out, increasing your payday. I know you're worried about the blinds eating you up, but if you really have an average stack of 5000-7000 and blinds are 330/600, then you have a reasonable cushion. If you didn't play a single hand, you could last through 50-70 hands! So even if e1 else is playing their tightest game (which they won't be), your medium stack will outlast half the field, increasing your payday with zero risk. And if you do catch some premium cards and win some pots, you'll still have a shot at the big money. That's what i'd do. On the other hand, i'm a newbie, so maybe you should get a second opinion! | ||
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| Re: Late NL Tourney strategy, blisterfoot, 21. Dec 2003 13:18 | ||
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| OK, that helps. Again, it depends on the payout structure, how concentrated the money is at the top. If #30-60 all get paid about the same, and you really have to make the final table to get a significant payoff, then you do want to take some chances to try build your stack high enough to have a shot at the real money. If you fail and bust out at 60 instead of 30, no great loss to you, the $$ is about the same. But still, pick your spots--don't commit your entire stack on a bluff unless you're sure it will work. But if it's a "wider" payout structure, where the money isn't as concentrated in the top few spots, then it may be in your interest to play tighter and wait for premium cards to play--just sit back and watch the other players knock each other out, increasing your payday. I know you're worried about the blinds eating you up, but if you really have an average stack of 5000-7000 and blinds are 330/600, then you have a reasonable cushion. If you didn't play a single hand, you could last through 50-70 hands! So even if e1 else is playing their tightest game (which they won't be), your medium stack will outlast half the field, increasing your payday with zero risk. And if you do catch some premium cards and win some pots, you'll still have a shot at the big money. That's what i'd do. On the other hand, i'm a newbie, so maybe you should get a second opinion! | ||
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