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O8 - what NOT to do head's up, starstealer, 18. Dec 2003 09:33
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Got my first final table appearance in a multi-table tourney the other night. We got down to head's up and I was eventually knocked out in 2nd place. When I was looking through my hand history, I found one hand in particular that I HORRIBLY misplayed, and figured in the tradition of public ridicule, I would post as a 'Don't let this happen to you' public service announcement.

Limit Omaha8, 20k/40k, in the SB with about 200k in chips - my opponent has 600k. I'm dealt 8c 4h 7s Ks.

Preflop: I call, he raises, I call - okay first mistake - this hand really doesn't deserve to be called and when raised, should definitely be laid down. The guy I'm playing against is a solid player from what I've seen (he's been responsible for bringing me down from chip lead with 9 players to the state I'm now in - 1/3 of his stack).

Flop comes: Jc 3d Ad. Opponent bets, I call - huh? WHY? I have a bad low draw and nothing to a straight pretty much... I missed my flush possibility - get out fool.

Turn comes: 5s. Opponent bets, I call. Again - WHY? I have my bad low and a bad inside straight draw now.

River comes: Qd. Opponent bets, I call. Sure - why not at this point? (Because it is 40k and its 20% of your stack and you can't beat a bluff fool...)

So he shows and reveals he had 4c 3c Kd 2d - nut low on the turn and a rivered flush. I lost 140k on that hand...

Still I managed to get back up to 300k before busting out.

I guess I'm just happy I made 2nd.

GL and don't follow my example.
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Re: O8 - what NOT to do head's up, Risky Business, 18. Dec 2003 14:27
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Ugh. Chalk it up to exhaustion or something. Don't post that crap here. Joking of course, but I'm sure he went back to his hand history and thought "at what point in that hand did that fool think things were going to turn for the better?"

In my opinion, 4,7,8 is NOT a low hand in any game. And I'm sure if you had the skill to get 2nd place, it's not a low hand to you either.

Let it go!!!!!!!


on 18. Dec 2003 09:33 starstealer wrote:
> Got my first final table appearance in a multi-table tourney the other night. We got down to head's up and I was eventually knocked out in 2nd place. When I was looking through my hand history, I found one hand in particular that I HORRIBLY misplayed, and figured in the tradition of public ridicule, I would post as a 'Don't let this happen to you' public service announcement.
>
> Limit Omaha8, 20k/40k, in the SB with about 200k in chips - my opponent has 600k. I'm dealt 8c 4h 7s Ks.
>
> Preflop: I call, he raises, I call - okay first mistake - this hand really
> doesn't deserve to be called and when raised, should definitely be laid down.
> The guy I'm playing against is a solid player from what I've seen (he's been
> responsible for bringing me down from chip lead with 9 players to the state I'm
> now in - 1/3 of his stack).
>
> Flop comes: Jc 3d Ad. Opponent bets, I call - huh? WHY? I have a bad low draw
> and nothing to a straight pretty much... I missed my flush possibility - get out
> fool.
>
> Turn comes: 5s. Opponent bets, I call. Again - WHY? I have my bad low and a bad
> inside straight draw now.
>
> River comes: Qd. Opponent bets, I call. Sure - why not at this point? (Because
> it is 40k and its 20% of your stack and you can't beat a bluff fool...)
>
> So he shows and reveals he had 4c 3c Kd 2d - nut low on the turn and a rivered
> flush. I lost 140k on that hand...
>
> Still I managed to get back up to 300k before busting out.
>
> I guess I'm just happy I made 2nd.
>
> GL and don't follow my example.
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Re: O8 - what NOT to do head's up, 4 POKER, 18. Dec 2003 14:39
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I agree with Risky here.

I'm aware that you knew that this was a bad hand, but you should have let it go before the flop - without putting in ANY of your chips. Grant it, heads up play does allow for some of the more marginal hands to be played, but 8-7-4-K is not one of them. But once you did complete the bet and he raised you preflop, I think you should have surrendered it right then and there.

You knew it as well, and you were saying it to yourself the whole time that you shouldn't be calling, but you didn't react to your own better judgement. (The only thing you were drawing to on the flop was a 7-4 low with no pair and no draw to anything else). So I'm curious, and my question is: What made you call his bet there?

Now a 2nd place finish is great, so congrats to you on that. Next time, go for the KILL! (Punish them with better cards).

He may have had you outchipped by 3 -1 but you still stood a good chance at taking first!

4P-
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