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 flopped a boat and lost..., OilcanCan, 17. Dec 2003 19:10 | ||
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| This makes me want to give up poker. Kh-4h mid position flop: 4d - 4s - Kd I have 4's full. bb bets out I call 1 late position caller turn is a K!...so now....4d - 4s - Kd - Kc - okay so now I'm going to split with someone right?..wrong river a Jc. The late caller has K-J. I ran this. In a 1000 hand sim........he wins 4 times, ties 35. I hate this game...lol. | ||
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| Re: flopped a boat and lost..., iceman5, 17. Dec 2003 19:59 | ||
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| That sucks, but why are you playing K4s in the first place? | ||
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| Re: flopped a boat and lost..., OilcanCan, 17. Dec 2003 20:03 | ||
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| It was a just a $ 10 pot limit tourney....there were only 5 people left...u had to be in the game....guy to my left was really short stacked....it was ok for a flat call. | ||
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| Re: flopped a boat and lost..., Palinya, 17. Dec 2003 20:11 | ||
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| on 17. Dec 2003 19:10 OilcanCan wrote: > I ran this. In a 1000 hand sim........he wins 4 times, ties 35. > > I hate this game...lol. interesting... but try running your K4s against his KJ and you'll see why you should have never have been in the hand | ||
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| Re: flopped a boat and lost..., LJH, 17. Dec 2003 20:21 | ||
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| DEAR ERLCAN, WHAT THE HELL ARE PLAYING K4 SUITED IN MIDDLE POSITION, YOU NEED YOUR HEAD EXAMINED. LJH | ||
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| Re: flopped a boat and lost..., FlopDaNutz, 18. Dec 2003 10:33 | ||
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| 5 handed or not, I would never play K4s. Especially with someone that is shortstacked and likely to go all in at any time with any decent hand. You should not have even flat called with K4s. | ||
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| confused about the simulation, Andrew W, 18. Dec 2003 13:44 | ||
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| How did you run this simulation? I assume you are running 1000 hands from the river, since it shows you tying more often.... What about losing? There is one unaccounted for "4" - 1 out of 44 times, that last 4 will hit the river, and you'd win with quads. Not that I'd count on that of course, I am just curious about these simulators everyone else talks about. It seems to me, you'd want the computer to offer every possible card yet to come. If it randomly picks cards, 1000 random selections may be close to tell you what is profitable, but I would rather think in terms of outs. Anyone have any idea what I'm asking? | ||
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| Re: confused about the simulation, Quark, 19. Dec 2003 07:03 | ||
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| Yes. I don't know the answer, but re-running the hand with every possible undisclosed card seems to make much more sense than 1000 "randomly selected" river cards. | ||
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| Re: confused about the simulation, kennycatkiller, 24. Dec 2003 20:53 | ||
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| i assume oilcan can is using texas turbo hold-em, which indeed does run high speed simulations, using a random number generator to deal from the remaining undealt cards. he apparently ignores the fact that he was ahead ONLY on the flop--that is, he was trailing before the flop, after the turn, and after the river. kennycatkiller | ||
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