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AKo, Green Jack, 17. Dec 2003 11:52
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Would you go past the Flop with AKo, if the Flop was J-9-7?

How would you play it pre-Flop with raisers before you?

I have a tendency to play this hand and QQ (raising pre-flop), all the way to the River, loosing each time.

Thanks....
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Re: AKo, Raodwarior, 17. Dec 2003 13:18
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Depends on my position and what the post flop betting looked like as well as the players still in.

As for the second question I would probably 3 bet pre-flop, and depending on my position again may cap if it was 2 raises to me. The key to playing this hand if it doesn't hit is to be able to lay it down when your beat and quit hoping for a miracle river.
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Re: AKo, FlopDaNutz, 17. Dec 2003 13:24
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I believe AK is the most overrated hand in poker. People play it more confident than they do mid pocket pairs and this is wrong. I fold AK preflop to a decent raise. Depends on the stakes and NLHE or LHE. I would call for a one bet raise in holdem and maybe 4-5 times the BB in NLHE, no more. If the flop misses you, then you have to be able to get off that hand when any bet is made to you. Same thing with QQ, which isten times a better starting hand than AK. If you play QQ and an A or K or both hit the flop, then you must be able to get off that hand easily unless you have a dominent read that someone betting is playing a lower pocket pair or a draw. Which is why you raise the pot big pre-flop with QQ so if a K or A does hit, you can almost bet that someone was playing a K or A, unless you are heads up and you put that person on JJ or less.
One of the hardest things in poker is letting go of a good looking hand suck as QQ or KK when overcards hit the flop. Even harder when you already have a lot of money in the pot, but you MUST learn to lay these down when they don't match up.
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Re: AKo, shorn, 17. Dec 2003 13:32
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on 17. Dec 2003 11:52 Green Jack wrote:
> Would you go past the Flop with AKo, if the Flop was J-9-7?
>
> How would you play it pre-Flop with raisers before you?
>
> I have a tendency to play this hand and QQ (raising pre-flop), all the way to
> the River, loosing each time.
>
> Thanks....

This isn't enough information to fully reply. A lot depends on the number of opponents, how they play (weak or tough, tight or loose), and your position and relative position to others. In general, if I have AKo and it is raised in front of me, I either three bet or fold (if the player is a complete rock which is virtually never). This hand likes to play heads up or three way, not multiway. Another benefit of this three bet play allows you to play more effectively on later streets as if you are called (or re-raised) you have a better idea of where your opponents hand is. This can save you a lot of $$.

Against a single opponent that called my 3-bet, I will lead at that flop and hope that they fold. If second to act and it is checked, then i definitely bet. IF I am raised in either case, then it is decisiontime. A lot of the time I will peel one off and if I miss, then I check/fold. If I hit (especially the K), I will check raise or raise a bettor.

Anyway, there are many more factors to consider for me to give a really proper answer, but these are a few ideas.
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