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 O8B: Short-handed starting hands, lunchmeat, 16. Dec 2003 15:36 | ||
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| I've been playing at the Poker Room again to try to clear their hellish Cardplayer bonus, and somehow an O8 game started (a rare occurance for that site). The opposition was mostly loose and clueless, but everyone was dropping in and out, so the table played short-handed (5-6 players) most of the time. I'd never played short-handed O8B before, and did a very bad job my first time out. I played typically tight at first, but the blinds passed by too quickly for this to seem like a profitable strategy. When I loosened up, it was even worse because with the rest of the table jumping in with junk starting hands, somebody would inevitably end up with close to the nuts. I'll let you figure out what happened when I tried to bluff people like I would in short-handed hold 'em. I felt lost at the table for the first time since I started learning hold 'em. I know short-handed O8b is a pretty broad topic, so I'll focus my question on what adjustments to starting hands should be made. I am not averse, however, to tips on other aspects of short-handed O8B, or information on resources where I can learn more. Thanks in advance | ||
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| Re: O8B: Short-handed starting hands, Highflyin3484k, 16. Dec 2003 16:30 | ||
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| Scotty Nguyen has been famous for saying "A2 or fold". Short handed you have to look to losen your starting requirements, I am really use to playing with a full ring, and have narrowed down my starting hands to basically any Ace suited with a low... like Ah Kh 2d 4c. Hands like these can very easily scoop your high and low. I have not actually had the opportunity to read a good Omaha book (just sections out of Hold'em books), But you are told constantly never to bet your low, though the less players you have (4-5) I find it profitable to drive your nut low, as it will drive out some of the players trying to see the next card with say a weak two pair or a weak flush draw. Highflyin3484k (the 19yr old poker prodigy) | ||
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| Re: O8B: Short-handed starting hands, Mark Gregorich, 17. Dec 2003 03:54 | ||
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| Scotty may have said "A2 or fold," but he's never been known to live by that philosophy. Yes, you will need to loosen up your starting requirements. Here's a few general tips on shorthanded O/8: - two pair, or even top pair, becomes much stronger in a shorthanded game (although not quite so much in 5 or 6 handed games, especially if they're loose). In heads up pots, these become hands to push. - hands such as 3456 are trash in ring games, but become playable in shorthanded games, particularly if suited or doublesuited - you won't run into the nut flush as often in these games, so small suited cards have more value. I raise with this hand in a 4 handed game, and fold it in a full game. - Bet your low hands MORE aggressively in short handed games, not less. The reason for this is that in a full game, someone will generally have a strong high hand and will be betting it, plus it is more likely that you will be quartered. In a shorthanded game, not only will you be the only low a higher percentage of the time, there will frequently not be a strong high hand out there, and your bet may win you the whole pot. That's the name of the game. Mark | ||
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| Re: O8B: Starting Hand Chart, Harold Pierce, Jr., 17. Dec 2003 23:01 | ||
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| Hi Mark! I preparing a starting hand chart for Omaha 8 or better, and I am having some problems trying to figure out card selection(s) for some starting hands given as AAXX, AA2X, etc. in some lists. Could you send your e-mail address to 74563.30@compuserve.com. I can then send you the chart for you to examine and make some recommendations re these types of starting hands. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Harold Pierce, Jr. | ||
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