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 Why the failure? Question for the pros, Bond18, 16. Dec 2003 10:18 | ||
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| After reading through the various posts all day after getting done with my last final THANK GOD, i read some about people going pro and about people thinking about going and etc etc. My question for you pros is what cuases all the failure among professional players? Bad beats? Lack of discipline? Gambling problems etc etc? And what seperates the successful ones from those who burn out and fade away? | ||
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| Re: Why the failure? Question for the pros, Brett LeMarinel, 16. Dec 2003 16:44 | ||
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| In my limited experience, what I have noticed as the primary difference between successful pros and unsuccessful ones is tenacity. To be tenacious requires numerous attributes all successful pros have. Patience, discipline, desire, understanding, courage, and of course luck. Please don't misunderstand tenacity to mean sticking it out when you are in the middle of a losing sesion to try and bring yourself even. In fact, the opposite is what makes a succesful professional player. Being able to leave the table with a MINIMAL loss as opposed to chasing your money, is many times the PROFESSIONAL play. To be a professional at anything you must first also be blessed with a talent above the status quo. You don't see some 35 yr old couch potato decide to just go tryout for their local NFL pro team. Why would you try to go be a professional poker player because you just want to give it a try? Becoming a professional poker player happens naturally the way it does in any sport. You start out playing little league, move up to some prep, then to semi pro, and eventually being a pro just happens. If you have the above listed attributes, and are tenacious and are a true student of the game ALWAYS, you have a CHANCE of becoming a successful pro at some point. (Can't wait to see the retorts from this post) BSL | ||
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| Re: Why the failure? Question for the pros, Easy E, 16. Dec 2003 17:59 | ||
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| your mother wears combat boots | ||
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| Re: Why the failure? Question for the pros, Formless, 16. Dec 2003 18:56 | ||
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| I tried to drive around his momma, but I ran out of gas. Good post Brett ;-) | ||
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| Re: Why the failure? Question for the pros, Barry T, 17. Dec 2003 01:29 | ||
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| Hi. Brett made some good points. FIrst, it requires amazing discipline. If a pro plays great for a few weeks, then has a bad session, reacts emotionally and blows an extra rack or two, that is sometimes enough to kill the earn. Many pros have leaks (sports betting, drinking, craps) that cause them to lose their winnings, and sometimes their bankroll. Many pros underestimate how bad the bad streaks will be. They can be successful to a couple of years, then have a losing month or three and be unable to cope. It is tough to show up after losing six sessions in a row, get your kings cracked on the first hand, and try to play excellent poker that night. Some cannot stand the constant pressure. Some lose their skills, or do not keep up with games. Some have too much pride to drop down in limits and rebuild when their bankroll takes a hit. Lot of reasons. BarryT | ||
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| Re: Why the failure? Question for the pros, Phish, 17. Dec 2003 16:51 | ||
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| I think the single greatest cause of failure is people overestimate their abilities: They may move up too fast not realizing (or refusing to acknowledge) that players play MUCH better at 75/150 than they do at 20/40. Their opponents may get better (and the worst ones quit/go broke) so the game gets tougher, but the pro doesn't see this or refuses to acknowledge it. So he continues to play his same old way which used to work but is now just break-even play. All the while he's complaining about bad beats and cold decks. Burn-out causes the pro to actually play worse than before. Again he doesn't recognize this or refuses to acknowledge it, and just continues to complain about everything except what's important. The truly successful ones almost never complain about bad beats or cold decks. They understand those things are part of the game. And they don't complain about other players chasing them down and beating them. That's part of the game too. If they think about a hand, it's about how the hand was played, and what they should've done differently. | ||
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