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 finally noticing improvements, detourHB, 15. Dec 2003 17:03 | ||
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| Hello, my first post here. I've been playing hold'em for about 5 months. I've read 4-5 books and played about 200 hrs internet and about 400hrs casino (Los Angeles). At the beginning I only played group 1 and 2 hands and was up about $1k from 2/4 holdem. Then I started to get confident and played looser...K8o, Q9o, etc.... My bankroll went down to near zero last month. I went back this weekend after re-reading some chapters and thinking about hands I lose and hands I am too scared to bet on when I hit the flop (A4o and hit the A, K8o and hit the king). So I stopped playing these. I played 30hrs this weekend at 2/4 and was up 170. (Even though I lost $150 at NL in 20 minutes first). I did have 2 hour sessions where I did not play a single hand. I was a total rock. What I've learned is the best strategy I've found so far in loose Cali 2/4 is to only play premium hands and purposely try to get people to fold preflop. You WILL get callers no matter what you do. Even after 12hrs at one table where I was sure to show my premium hand every time I lost or folded, I was still called with medium hands while pre-flop raising. The garbage hands folded, which was my goal. When I have AK, I dont want 86 playing against me, I want Ax and Kx playing. Anyways, just some things for beginners to think about, and veterans to comment on. Thanks. Detour HB | ||
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| Re: finally noticing improvements, Highflyin3484k, 15. Dec 2003 17:12 | ||
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| Dont worry your not the only one who suffers from "cant fold an ace pre-flop". I play alot online and home games (too young to play in a casino) but it never fails you will always have at least one usually more people who play A 4o, K 6o, Q7.. etc, I have always refered to these as "painted rags or face rags". I dont know why but even when I first started out playing, I never wanted to play these types of hands, and its kind of gotten into my mind so now when I see people play them I kinda cringe (I know this sounds stupid) but its like how can you play a hand like that. Say you decide to play A4o, you have to ask your self what you want to hit... say the flop comes down A K 8, wow, you caught the ONLY thing you were counting on the flop... an ace, with a horrible kicker. Think about it this way... what ace can you beat? you can only beat A 2 or A 3, in which most cases its a split pot, so your profit from playing these types of hands is terrible. Its basically the same thing with K 8... flop K 10 2... you have top pair but your only going to beat K 7 and lower, and solid players dont play those types of hands. Damn I ramble to much, oh well. Highflyin3484k (the 19yr old poker prodigy) | ||
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| Re: finally noticing improvements, Palinya, 16. Dec 2003 05:20 | ||
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| > Even after 12hrs at one table where I > was sure to show my premium hand every time I lost or folded, I was still called > with medium hands while pre-flop raising. It's amazing isn't it. On a 3/6 game this weekend I had AK on the button. I raised it pre-flop. Flop came up A8x. I bet it out to the river and someone showed me K8... then he says that he thought I was bluffing. Wow! this guy was sitting at the table with me for about 4 hours already and hadn't seen me bluff all night. What was this guy thinking? I wouldn't bluff on this table. Someone was always going to call me on it. I had to show my hand every time I went to the river. On a table like this there is no reason to bluff. You don't have to, they are going to just pay you off everytime you get dealt a good hand. | ||
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