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 A Ringer at Your Table?, CRCarson, 12. Dec 2003 19:36 | ||
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| Once you've moved on from play money to real money tables, how can you be sure that one of the players at your table isn't actually a house computer program with either a sophisticated algorithm that plays perfectly every hand or a cyber player with full knowledge of all the cards dealt each hand. I mean, these sites are in business to make money...who's regulating and overseeing this stuff? | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, Mikewad, 12. Dec 2003 19:54 | ||
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| There isnt a computer program that can outplay a human mind in poker. As far as people on cellphones colluding well use your own judgement on that one. | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, CRCarson, 13. Dec 2003 11:16 | ||
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| Interesting...there are computers that can outplay humans at chess, and chess is a much more difficult game. | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, Coconut, 13. Dec 2003 17:20 | ||
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| Yes but chess is a much different game too. In chess, the computer can see what the player has, in poker it can't. In poker you adapt to the play, the opponents, the bets, and everything else that is processed my human brains. In chess, it's pretty straight foward. Yeah, different players will play differently, but not the same as in poker. | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, Mikewad, 13. Dec 2003 17:32 | ||
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| Thank you for clarifying that for me coconut. | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, Chris W, 13. Dec 2003 18:38 | ||
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| Although it may be true that in a fair game a computer program can't beat a human opponent, the underlying assumption here is that the site is not running a fair game. It would be extremely easy to write a program that would beat any player in the world if the program knew what cards were coming and what the other players were holding. | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, CRCarson, 13. Dec 2003 19:44 | ||
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| Bingo! That is part of what I'm asking about.... | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, Mikewad, 14. Dec 2003 05:42 | ||
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| Yes, but I am assuming the site is honest. Good luck | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, JStewUF, 23. Dec 2003 20:19 | ||
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| I thought the same thing that a computer couldnt take out a solid player...till a guy on a site I was playing at sent me a link for PokiPoker. Basically some college professor in Canada set up a computer that you can play Hold Em against. The longer you play the more it plays against your style. Play against him heads up an hour and tell me if you feel the same way. More times than not it kicks your a**. Give it a shot. As for the site....just do a google search for PokiPoker. | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, Angel, 23. Dec 2003 22:44 | ||
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| It is odd that no one has mentioned Mike Caro's program - Orac. It could beat many a human player. It shouldn't be too hard for low limits to write such a program. | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, Formless, 12. Dec 2003 20:38 | ||
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| Paradise and PokerStars have good reputations for actively policing their games. Personally I'm not worried about bots in my games, though I am certain there are bots playing online that can beat me, without colluding. I just try to pick a table I can win at. It's unlikely you will find a bot at a No Limit or a non-holdem game, I think. In any case, bots are lower on my list of concerns than colluding *%**%*#&%^. As long as I am consistently playing well and making cash though, I'll keep an eye out for the fishy stuff but try not to dwell on it. Good luck at the tables. | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, LJH, 13. Dec 2003 13:47 | ||
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| CRCARSON, BY GOSH YOU ARE RIGHT, IF I WERE YOU I WOULD NOT PLAY ON LINE, LJH | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, CRCarson, 13. Dec 2003 19:45 | ||
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| Did Adam borrow someone's account while he's on the road? | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, ADAM THE EXPERT, 15. Dec 2003 09:00 | ||
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| Uh, noooooooooo!!!!! Why would you say that, and what does it mean? | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, Mikewad, 13. Dec 2003 17:39 | ||
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| By the way all rules are strictly enforced by the Costa rican poker police. heheheheheheheh | ||
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| Re: A Ringer at Your Table?, Snorbolus, 15. Dec 2003 09:04 | ||
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| You can't. If you believe that you are being cheated don't play. If you think the games are straight up and you are having fun then do. Use your own judgment. Snorbolus on 12. Dec 2003 19:36 CRCarson wrote: > Once you've moved on from play money to real money tables, how can you be sure > that one of the players at your table isn't actually a house computer program > with either a sophisticated algorithm that plays perfectly every hand or a > cyber player with full knowledge of all the cards dealt each hand. > > I mean, these sites are in business to make money...who's regulating and > overseeing this stuff? | ||
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