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 AQs on the button, Snorbolus, 11. Dec 2003 08:23 | ||
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| Playing 10 handed $4,8 texas hold'em you a dealt AsQs on the button. A fairly loose aggressive player opens for a raise from EP. Two MP players call, MP1 is a little on the loose passive side (will often make loose calls but rarely puts in raises), M2 is also loose but will sometimes raise with medium strong hands and can also be a little tricky sometimes. You believe that EP could make this raise with any pair AA-99, any two face cards suited or not, and maby even something like A10 or 10,9s MP1 and MP2 both know EP is loose and aggressive but you are not sure what they would put him on or what they would call with in this spot. Probably most hands they were going to play anyway but nothing really trashy. You haven't seen much out of the ordinary from the blinds but SB looks as if she is getting ready to fold. Do you play? If yes what is your general plan for if the flop if comes: (a) ace high with a flush draw against you and a backdoor flush of your own eg. Ac7c5s (b) rags eg. 8c6s2h (c) queen high but with a possible made flush against you eg. qh9h7h and there is a bet from EP raiser and calls from MP1 and MP1? Snorbolus | ||
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| Re: AQs on the button, stdioh, 11. Dec 2003 08:44 | ||
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| If I am holding AQ in any position and am facing a raise from a player who will raise any two unsuited face cards, I will three bet to isolate him. If there are a lot of cold callers in between then I will just call and wait to see a flop. Sometimes he'll have AA and spank me when I connect with a queen, but more times he'll have QJ and I'll take the money. | ||
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| Re: AQs on the button, Snorbolus, 11. Dec 2003 09:20 | ||
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| Good to hear from you again Stdioh | ||
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| Re: AQs on the button, gary ford, 11. Dec 2003 09:38 | ||
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| WELCOME BACK !! | ||
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| Re: AQs on the button, jaustin, 11. Dec 2003 11:29 | ||
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| on 11. Dec 2003 08:23 Snorbolus wrote: > Playing 10 handed $4,8 texas hold'em you a dealt AsQs on the button. > > A fairly loose aggressive player opens for a raise from EP. Two MP players > call, MP1 is a little on the loose passive side (will often make loose calls but > rarely puts in raises), M2 is also loose but will sometimes raise with medium > strong hands and can also be a little tricky sometimes. > > You believe that EP could make this raise with any pair AA-99, any two face > cards suited or not, and maby even something like A10 or 10,9s > > MP1 and MP2 both know EP is loose and aggressive but you are not sure what they > would put him on or what they would call with in this spot. Probably most hands > they were going to play anyway but nothing really trashy. You haven't seen much > out of the ordinary from the blinds but SB looks as if she is getting ready to > fold. > > Do you play? If yes what is your general plan for if the flop if comes: I'm definitely not going to pass on this hand. Depending on the players I might raise - for two reasons: 1) If EP caps he probably has a big hand (depending on the type of player he is) that has mine dominated, so it will be easier to get away from the hand if I flop a queen and he bets - I might raise here if he's the type who will cap with AK and then lead. 2) Chance to get every to check the flop and see the turn for free. > (a) ace high with a flush draw against you and a backdoor flush of your own eg. > Ac7c5s I'd bet/raise. If I got re-raised I'd slow down. If there are enough players that he coluld be raising a flush draw for value, I'd probably go into call-down mode or bet the turn if he checks. > (b) rags eg. 8c6s2h If I raised pre-flop and it checks to me, I'd make a stab at the pot. If I get called, I'd check it to the river and hope my Ace stands up. > (c) queen high but with a possible made flush against you eg. qh9h7 Probably fold, even if my hand is currently best, the odds I'll win a showdown with multiple players aren't great, and I could be drawing dead, so I'd pass. > > and there is a bet from EP raiser and calls from MP1 and MP1? > > Snorbolus | ||
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| Re: AQs on the button, Banning, 11. Dec 2003 23:01 | ||
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| I am asuming that EP leads out on flop and both MP call like you said: > (a) ace high with a flush draw against you and a backdoor flush of your own eg. > Ac7c5s Raise for sure and lead out on turn, asuming no flush draw comes i lead out on turn: i get raised back at i fold easily. > (b) rags eg. 8c6s2h fold > (c) queen high but with a possible made flush against you eg. qh9h7h >either raise or fold. kinda 50/50 depending on how i feel about the players. if that EP knows that the MP players are calling stations I'm folding but if EP is less sophisticated looking I raise to isolate and call him down. | ||
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| Re: AQs on the button, Roy Cooke, 12. Dec 2003 09:21 | ||
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| I'm probably reraising this hand....I can make a case for calling if the blinds are horrible players who will always call one bet and likely fold for two (or 2-1/2). I would also call if the EP was a tight tough player...But since his hand range is wide, raising is the better play. I think the hand plays better with a pre-flop reraise because... 1. You may acquire free cards you otherwise might not have received if you had just called. 2. If you flop a flush draw and play it fast, you might be able to get a better hand to lay down and win the pot without making a hand. 3. You hand has good value and you are increasing the value you are receiving by raising. 4. It is good for your image. 5. You will more likely fold the blinds and will increase your chances of winning the pot and put "dead money" into the equation. May the river always flow your way :-) Roy Cooke on 11. Dec 2003 08:23 Snorbolus wrote: > Playing 10 handed $4,8 texas hold'em you a dealt AsQs on the button. > > A fairly loose aggressive player opens for a raise from EP. Two MP players > call, MP1 is a little on the loose passive side (will often make loose calls but > rarely puts in raises), M2 is also loose but will sometimes raise with medium > strong hands and can also be a little tricky sometimes. > > You believe that EP could make this raise with any pair AA-99, any two face > cards suited or not, and maby even something like A10 or 10,9s > > MP1 and MP2 both know EP is loose and aggressive but you are not sure what they > would put him on or what they would call with in this spot. Probably most hands > they were going to play anyway but nothing really trashy. You haven't seen much > out of the ordinary from the blinds but SB looks as if she is getting ready to > fold. > > Do you play? If yes what is your general plan for if the flop if comes: > > (a) ace high with a flush draw against you and a backdoor flush of your own eg. > Ac7c5s > (b) rags eg. 8c6s2h > (c) queen high but with a possible made flush against you eg. qh9h7h > > and there is a bet from EP raiser and calls from MP1 and MP1? > > Snorbolus | ||
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