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 AK on the blinds, natcs, 10. Dec 2003 13:49 | ||
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| PLEASE HEILP! I'm new player and try to learn the game. I know that tight and agressive is, generally ,the correct play in HE. So I raise everytime when I got AK no matter what position I'm on -that included BB or SB. When I lost my opponents tell me that what I deserve to raise AK on the blind .Then ,the other time I just call with AK onsame position and lost the pot , the other player said that what I deserve for not raising with AK. Somone, please tell me how to correctly play this hand on those positions ,in general, on simple standard game with 3 or 4 hands see the flop most of time. Thanks. TC | ||
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| Re: AK on the blinds, SpaceAce, 10. Dec 2003 14:00 | ||
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| Are you playing low limit? If so, the first thing I will say is IGNORE THE ADVICE OF OTHER PLAYERS AT YOUR TABLE. Seriously, it's probably incorrect. Second, buy and read Winning Low Limit Holdem by Lee Jones. You will learn a lot about how to play your hands before the flop. Raising with AK in the blinds IS correct. Raising with AK is often correct because it is a very strong hand. You're basically even money against anything except AA or KK. If the other players are telling you, "That's what you get", for raising with AK, they are morons. If you have AK, it is very likely that you have the best hand before the flop or that you are no worse than a coin flip against a pair smaller than AA or KK. If you do NOT raise with AK, you are just begging people with inferior hands stay in and catch something on the flop. Also, if you raise pre-flop you can sometimes take the pot with a bet on the flop no matter what falls. SpaceAce | ||
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| Re: AK on the blinds, Palinya, 10. Dec 2003 14:45 | ||
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| I've received some pretty bad advice from people on the low limit tables. A couple days ago, I was on a $1/$2 table and I wasn't getting any starting hands so I was folding a lot. The couple times I did get a hand, it was outdrawn but I was being patient and waiting for my opportunity. I was down about $25 over a couple hours and but I knew I just needed a few good starting hands and I'd be up. But yeah, I think AK is worth a raise There was a guy that came to the table with $50 and an hour later was up to $110. He was seeing about 70% of flops and getting very lucky with some really, really unplayable hands... He had watched me lose the $25 I had lost and out of the blue he gave me his advice... He said I was way too 'tite' and that I needed to play more hands if I expected to win. I just thanked him for his insightful advice and he said, 'no problem' 45 minutes later I didn't bother saying anything when he went broke and I was back even. | ||
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| Re: AK on the blinds, Highflyin3484k, 10. Dec 2003 20:39 | ||
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| HAHA spaceace I know what you mean.... I get AQ in EP I raise 6x the BB (pretty small BB early on in a tourny) a guy in MP flat doubles and button calls. flop is Q 9 9, so I bet the pot and MP folds and button flat calls, turn is a blank I bet again... river is an 8... I check (scared of only J 10), and he flips up 29o. I merely laughed and said "misclick?" and he said "nope, just that good". ........ true Highflyin3484k (the 19yr old poker prodigy) | ||
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| Re: AK on the blinds, SpaceAce, 10. Dec 2003 23:09 | ||
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| Haha, "just that good"? Boy, I sure hope he was kidding because if he believes that he'll be living in a cardboard box before too long. SpaceAce | ||
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| Re: AK on the blinds, jaustin, 11. Dec 2003 17:18 | ||
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| The hand you mention is a bad beat, but early in a NL tournament I would muck AQ from EP almost every time. The blinds are not big enough to try to pick up and usually when you get called you'll be either a slight underdog or dominated. And if someone plays back at you, you've just wasted your money (in the hand you mentioned MP probably had AK or a pocket pair and you hit either one of three outs or one of six). on 10. Dec 2003 20:39 Highflyin3484k wrote: > HAHA spaceace I know what you mean.... I get AQ in EP I raise 6x the BB (pretty small BB > early on in a tourny) a guy in MP flat doubles and button calls. flop is Q 9 9, so I bet > the pot and MP folds and button flat calls, turn is a blank I bet again... river is an > 8... I check (scared of only J 10), and he flips up 29o. I merely laughed and said > "misclick?" and he said "nope, just that good". ........ > > > true > > > Highflyin3484k (the 19yr old poker prodigy) | ||
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| Re: AK on the blinds, noiseboy, 10. Dec 2003 15:42 | ||
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| well if most flops are at least 3-handed, then you want to raise. An AK will hit either an A or K on the flop about a third of the time. It's a raise for value because even if your AK ends up in the muck two thirds of the time, the one third that it doesn't will more than make up for the times that it hits because the pots will be larger. In addition, people play some trashy hands in low limit games, so you want to punish the people limping with crap. If they outdraw you, there's nothing you can do, but most of the time they won't so they are paying 2 bets to see a flop with a hand that may not even be worth seeing a flop for 1 bet. | ||
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| Re: AK on the blinds, PairTheBoard, 11. Dec 2003 02:40 | ||
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| LLHE, sometimes I raise and sometimes I limp with AK in the blinds. I hate to give up the value in raising. But I also hate the 2/3's of the time I miss the flop. I do not like betting into the field when I miss yet if I check it screams "I'm playing AK and missed. Please bet me off this pot". Maybe limping is a mistake but I still play it both ways. The deception value is nice when hitting the flop after limping. | ||
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| Re: AK on the blinds, shorn, 11. Dec 2003 05:45 | ||
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| This all depends on the number of opponents, the type of game you are in and what position the limpers have called from. AK DOES NOT play well agains a lot of opponents, so if you have a chance to limit the field with the hand you should. However, in the blinds, if 3 or 4 people have already called, raising is the wrong play. If you raise, then you are giving implied odds to your opponents to draw against you. Plus, I don't know hardly any players that will not call a raise once they have called the first bet. So, in the blinds in a multi-way pot, your best bet is to just call and if you get a flop you like, then go for a checkraise. If there are only 1 or two limpers in the pot, and they have called from a late position (signifying some weakness), then you probably should raise as it is likely you have the best hand. AK can win unimproved against one or maybe two players, so it is stronger in that situation. If the limpers call from early position, then it might be best to see a flop and then maybe go for a checkraise. Just calling pre-flop gives you some deception and potentially will make your opponents make mistakes on later streets when their is more $$ at stake. Finally, don't be afraid to fold your AK if there are a lot of players and you flop an unfavorable board. Many LL players play AK like AA and it cost them a ton of $$. Just check and fold to a board like 987 with two of a suit if there is a bet and a few callers. Bets saved spend just as well as bets won. | ||
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