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Today's O8 hand- How valuable are a number of iffy draws?, lunchmeat, 10. Dec 2003 05:59
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Paradise 2/4

I open limp in EP with Ah, Ac, Qc, 6h. 5 others see the flop for 1 bet.

Flop: 8h, 7c, 3h

Checked around.

Turn: 9s (8h, 7c, 3h)

SB checks, BB bets, I fold (but I wasn't sure if I made the right play).

Here's what confused me about the hand. The flush draw had some value, but even if the heart came I'd split a small pot. My A6 low is marginal at best, but I may have the best low because only 2 more aces are in the deck, and an A2 would have probably bet and the 3h spoils A3xx. I folded because my hand wasn't too great, it could always get raised behind me, and the big blind bettor was a pretty good player.

Turns out the big blind outplayed me. He took low on river with 24xx... but do two or more iffy draws make hands like this worth a call?
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Re: Today's O8 hand- How valuable are a number of iffy draws?, Easy E, 10. Dec 2003 08:01
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on 10. Dec 2003 05:59 lunchmeat wrote:
> Paradise 2/4
>
> I open limp in EP with Ah, Ac, Qc, 6h. 5 others see the flop for 1 bet.
>
> Flop: 8h, 7c, 3h
>
> Checked around.
>
> Turn: 9s (8h, 7c, 3h)
>
> SB checks, BB bets, I fold (but I wasn't sure if I made the right play).
>
> Here's what confused me about the hand. The flush draw had some value, but > even if the heart came I'd split a small pot.

I would have raised or bet the flop, myself.... and I DEFINATELY would have raised the turn, with nut flush draw, plus the possibility of conterfeiting the low on the river if a better one, even the A2, is against you.
Raise to see where you're at, drive out the worse lows. Unless a 65 or JT is out there, you might have the best high right now.

My A6 low is marginal at best,
> but I may have the best low

forget the low- look at the high and back into the low, especially if you can show power.
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