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 A blind posting question, stein, 9. Dec 2003 16:58 | ||
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| Here you are sitting down to a limit hold'em table at your usual casino - a long nights gaming awaits. As you pull your seat out and rest your lucky charms on the felt, you realise you are on the cutoff and faced with the nights first big decision: post now or wait for the big blind? The situation as I see it is this: Posting means you are essentially paying for (assuming a 10 seater table) 7 'free' hands. Thus each of the seven hands 'costs' one seventh of half a big bet or ((1/2)/7BBs = 1/14) 1/14th of a big bet) Moreover, assuming at a B&M casino you achieve approx. 40 hands per hour, these 7 hands are the equivalent of (since (7/40)*60 = 10.5) 10.5 minutes play. Therefore, for posting to be the profitable option you must be a player who earns, on average, more than 1/14th of a big bet per 10.5 minutes play. To simplify, if your hourly rate is 'h'; so, (h/60)*10.5 > 1/14BB thus, h > 0.41BB So, if your hourly rate is greater than 0.41 big bets and you wish to maximise your nights profits, you should post instead of waiting. Since I expect to earn 1.1 big bets per hour, I will always post . Am I way off the mark here? Anyone's two cents is welcome. Keep eeking out that +EV. Stein. | ||
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| Re: A blind posting question, Mikewad, 14. Dec 2003 05:39 | ||
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| on 9. Dec 2003 16:58 stein wrote: > Here you are sitting down to a limit hold'em table at your usual casino - a long > nights gaming awaits. As you pull your seat out and rest your lucky charms on > the felt, you realise you are on the cutoff and faced with the nights first big > decision: post now or wait for the big blind? > > The situation as I see it is this: > > Posting means you are essentially paying for (assuming a 10 seater table) 7 > 'free' hands. Thus each of the seven hands 'costs' one seventh of half a big bet > or ((1/2)/7BBs = 1/14) 1/14th of a big bet) > > Moreover, assuming at a B&M casino you achieve approx. 40 hands per hour, these > 7 hands are the equivalent of (since (7/40)*60 = 10.5) 10.5 minutes play. > > Therefore, for posting to be the profitable option you must be a player who > earns, on average, more than 1/14th of a big bet per 10.5 minutes play. > > To simplify, if your hourly rate is 'h'; > > so, (h/60)*10.5 > 1/14BB > > thus, h > 0.41BB > > So, if your hourly rate is greater than 0.41 big bets and you wish to maximise > your nights profits, you should post instead of waiting. > > Since I expect to earn 1.1 big bets per hour, I will always post . > > Am I way off the mark here? Anyone's two cents is welcome. > > Keep eeking out that +EV. > > Stein. I think you are putting too much thought into a trivial matter. How are you getting 7 free hands if you post? what is your position when you post? The only time I will ever post is when i am right behind the button. It is worth it because I am buying position. But you can read about it in my new book.heheheheheheeh Good luck! | ||
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| Re: A blind posting question, Smokey27, 15. Dec 2003 13:50 | ||
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| i never thought about it the way you did, interesting..... My thought: I prefer to post in the cutoff because position is so important, it is even more important to have postion on players that you don't know how they play yet, even if you did know all the players at the table you dont have information as to how they are doing that night which can alter how they typically play. Mathematically as you put it the cuttoff post gives you 7 hands for the price of 1 regular bb post gives you 10 hands for the price of 1.5 or 1.66 or 1.33 depending on how much the sb is. ex 2-4 with 1 and 2 blinds, 3-6 with 1 and 3 blinds, 15-30 with 10 and 15 blinds, so from that view it is cheaper to post at the cutoff. My conclusion the cutoff is the way to enter the game, it is chepaer hands per blind and it gives you postion at the begining when it is even more crucial. Also i think posting on the cutoff gives you a chance to develop a solid agressive table image, I will raise with any two cards if it is folded around to me, and will raise with any hand that i would have stood a raise with as well if it is not yet raised. Your opponents dont know you, fire up the game with a preflop raise only good things can happen. | ||
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