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 Calling a raise with AKs, Formless, 9. Dec 2003 04:10 | ||
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| Good Morning, PartyPoker $50 1 table NLHE tournament, 3 get paid, 1000 starting chips. 4 players left, blinds 100-200, I have 1570 after posting SB. UTG chipleader raises to 400, button folds, I have AKs. Normally I would shove all-in and hope to win the pot, but my stack is relatively short and the chipleader will call my raise, I think, so I cold call, BB folds. My plan is to move all in on the flop, sort of a delayed reraise. But what does the raiser have? I was kind of thinking medium pair, he was tight enough and was not raising with crap. Flop comes 249 rainbow. I bet 1270 into a 1000 pot and get called by pocket tens and lose. I think I should have folded preflop. In tournaments I think it's important to act quickly, but here I think I acted too quickly and didn't think this out very well. Comments? | ||
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| Re: Calling a raise with AKs, Flakes, 9. Dec 2003 05:00 | ||
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| Hi - This is what I would've done in your situation. 4 players left. The blinds are $100-200. You're in the SB for $100, holding AK suited. The chipleader open raises for $400. Button folds. You said that you normally would shove all-in here but you decided to just call and then push all-in on the flop. The way I see it - If you planned on moving all-in on the flop anyway, then you should have went all-in preflop - even more so with a short stack. The big problem is - By you only calling his raise you allow for the BB to come in for only $200 more. AK suited is a pretty strong hand but it's not a hand that you want to get more than one caller with, and not this late a spot. Make your move preflop because you can't allow for the BB to outflop you. Put the raisor to the test and make the BB come to a tougher decision. I do not think you should have folded your hand. Your stack was realitively low and you probably weren't going to see anything better than AK suited. Push!! Flakes | ||
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| Re: Calling a raise with AKs, Denver, 9. Dec 2003 10:12 | ||
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| I agree with Flakes, in that, if you've already made up your mind to go all-in with that hand then you should at least give the other players a chance to fold by being the aggressor and moving in on them. A call was likely, so then you're in a race with a big stack which is bound to happen at some point in a SnG if you're not the big dog. If you decide to just call then you have to fold when no Ace or King shows up because any over pair, 2-pair or set (and even flush and straight draws most of the time on Party) will call you automatically. If you pop an A or a K then you should consider going all-in at that point (especially if K, rag, rag flops). | ||
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| Re: Calling a raise with AKs, LJH, 9. Dec 2003 10:20 | ||
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| formless, when somebody has already opemed with a raise. you either go all in then. since you did not do that you certainly cannot go all in after the flop when you hand has not bettered. ljh | ||
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| Re: Calling a raise with AKs, Bond18, 9. Dec 2003 13:48 | ||
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| Yea you definately don't want some leader with a weaker hand catching on you then taking you off, and if you got him on a medium pair then hes not gonna pay you off on a flop with an A if hes smart, so moving all in PF is the right move. As far as folding goes, dont' even think about it, when its short handed and you have an opportunity to get your money in with a hand as big as AKs PF heads up theres almost never any reason to not do so, in my opinion. | ||
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| Re: Calling a raise with AKs, Formless, 10. Dec 2003 09:33 | ||
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| Thanks for the replies. I should've folded this hand preflop. | ||
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| Re: Calling a raise with AKs, SCOTT FRANCIS, 11. Dec 2003 10:02 | ||
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| FOLDED???? AKs 4 handed with a short stack? Damn, I can't wait to get a hand like that shorthanded. I normally wait around for it and end up having to move in with A8 or KQ. Since the guy raising was the big stack he could be playing just about any two playable cards. I dont believe there is an SnG player here who would argue with you moving ALL IN in this situation. Scott | ||
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| Re: Calling a raise with AKs, jaustin, 11. Dec 2003 12:36 | ||
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| Depending on the chip counts of everyone else, you have two options here. All-in or call and fold if you don't hit an ace or king. In most situations I'd go all-in, but if you have someone who is about to be blinded out, you might just call and then fold to make the money if you don't hit. Calling and then pushing all-in is a mistake as he's only going to call if he has you beat. | ||
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