|
||
|
||
|
Server Time: 12/1/2008 4:18:38 PM PACIFIC |
 Folding a set, Dr_Monkey, 8. Dec 2003 05:57 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| Playing $1/$2 NL ring game. BB with KJo. 4 limpers. Flop is K K 2. Looking to trap, I only bet $5 into about a $10 pot. Only one stays. Turn is a 5. I bet $10 and other guy goes all in for over $100. I have about the same amount. Would you think this is a bluff or a sign that you are beat? I ended up calling and losing to his K5o. For some reason, I think I should have recognized that he hit a hand that had me beat. Unfortunately, his play is pretty wild and he makes some big bets to scare people away. Honestly, I don't think I could have bet any amount that would have made him fold his set on the flop. Maybe I should have put in a pot sized bet on the flop, then if he goes all in on the turn I have to rethink the possibilities that he had a set also that turned into a boat. But is this setting myself up for a bluff? | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| Re: Folding a set, Eman, 8. Dec 2003 06:47 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| That was a very sticky situation. First of all, you didnt have a set. You had trips. Trips are easier to fold than a set. But in your case, that was a hard hand to fold. You have to assume that he was also holding a K. I would have bet more after the flop. | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| Re: Folding a set, Dr_Monkey, 8. Dec 2003 07:26 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| I thought a set was trips or 3 of a kind. I had KJ and he had K5. We both had KKK on the flop. He made a boat when the turn brought a 5. on 8. Dec 2003 06:47 Eman wrote: > That was a very sticky situation. First of all, you didnt have a set. You had > trips. Trips are easier to fold than a set. But in your case, that was a hard hand > to fold. You have to assume that he was also holding a K. I would have bet more > after the flop. | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| Re: Folding a set, Eman, 8. Dec 2003 07:35 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| the term "set" is when your holding a pair and you hit third card to make a "set". Trips is when your holding one card and two of them are on the board. Thus, trips are more vulnerable. | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| Re: Folding a set, FlopDaNutz, 8. Dec 2003 07:58 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| set: 1. (n) In hold 'em and stud, three of a kind. To flop a set in hold 'em means that (most often) one started with a pair and one of those cards was among the flop (the first three community cards). Less often it means a pair was among the flop and the player had another card of that rank in the hole. 2. four of a kind, particularly as part of the phrase set of fours. 3. (v) Arrange the two hands that are made out of the seven cards dealt each player in pai gow poker. | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| Re: Folding a set, noiseboy, 8. Dec 2003 09:02 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| Yes, but to avoid confusion, most authors now call #2 "trips" and only use the term set to refer to when you have a pocket pair and hit one on the flop. In older works like Super System he uses the term "trips" and "set" interchangeably, but mentions that one situation is stronger than the other. Back then, I don't think there was much in the way of standardized terminology because Brunson keeps referring to the the flop as "turn", then calls the turn "fourth street" like it was seven card stud. Anyway, I think the distinction between the terms "set" and "trips" is a fairly recent one, so you are both right to some extent. That being said, I'd much rather have a set than trips. ;) | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| Re: Folding a set, Eman, 8. Dec 2003 07:37 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| the term "Set" is when your holding a pair and you hit third card to make a "Set". " Trips" is when your holding one card and two of them are on the board. Thus," trips"are more vulnerable. | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| Re: Folding a set, Eman, 8. Dec 2003 07:38 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| sorry for the double post.... | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| Re: Folding a set, Lou Krieger, 8. Dec 2003 08:08 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| When your opponent bet $100 into what was a fairly small pot, there were a lot of hands that could have beaten you at that point, and laying down trips isn't that big an issue at all. Just wait until you flop a set (not trips) and have to consider laying down that hand. Then it's really tough. And don't worry about encouraging bluffs from your opponents. You don't have to pick off that many bluffs from guys who bluff $100 into relatively small post to make it worthwhile in the long run. Lou Krieger Raise your game with Lou Krieger, author of "Poker For Dummies" and five other books about poker, at Royal Vegas Poker http://www.royalvegaspoker.com/lou | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| POKER FORUM HOME | POKER FORUM | LINK TO US | ARCHIVE | ONLINE POKER | Copyright 2002, United Poker Forum |
|
Getting Started |
UPF Tournaments |
Poker News, Views, Rules |
Poker Strategy & Psychology |
Money and Bankroll Poker Bonuses & Promotions | World Series of Poker (WSOP) | Play Online Poker | Poker Odds & Statistics | Tournament Poker | Poker Books, Videos & Learning Tools Looking for a Poker Game | Poker Bad Beats | Not Quite Poker | Quizzes and Polls | Forum Suggestions & Bugs |
|
|
|
|
Interesting Links: Online Poker | Free Poker Games | United Poker Network |
|