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 Hand review, iceman5, 3. Dec 2003 13:18 | ||
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| I am UTG +2 with AQ. I raise. I get one Mp caller and both blinds call. 4 to see the flop. The flop comes Q72 rainbow. Both blinds check, I bet. MP raises. Both blinds fold. There are no str8 or flush draws but he may have a set although I doubt it. I probably should have reraised but I just called. The turn is a blank. I bet figuring if he has a set he'll raise again. He just calls. The river is another blank. I bet again, he calls again. And I win. He had QJ. Obviously he shouldnt have called my raise with QJ, but other than that how do you like his play? Should I have reraised or should I slow down fearing a set when raised with no draws available? | ||
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| Re: Hand review, KJo, 3. Dec 2003 13:26 | ||
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| I would probably reraise the flop, and bet again on the turn if he flat calls the reraise rather than raise again. The best chance you have of finding out if you're up against a set is on the turn though, and given the flat call you were right to assume you were OK. I would have also been worried about 2 pair though, remember that in LL people call raises with junk like Q7 all the time. Eli on 3. Dec 2003 13:18 iceman5 wrote: > I am UTG +2 with AQ. I raise. I get one Mp caller and both blinds call. 4 to > see the flop. The flop comes Q72 rainbow. Both blinds check, I bet. MP > raises. Both blinds fold. There are no str8 or flush draws but he may have a > set although I doubt it. I probably should have reraised but I just called. > The turn is a blank. I bet figuring if he has a set he'll raise again. He just > calls. The river is another blank. I bet again, he calls again. And I win. > He had QJ. Obviously he shouldnt have called my raise with QJ, but other than > that how do you like his play? Should I have reraised or should I slow down > fearing a set when raised with no draws available? | ||
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| Re: Hand review, ReMMy, 3. Dec 2003 13:28 | ||
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| I would probably reraise on the flop, if he capped it, I might call him down to the river in case he has a set. If he called my raise on the flop, I would bet the turn, a raise there might mean a set, otherwise I would bet the river as well. The other option is to call his raise and then go for a check raise on the turn, I would do this only if you have a decent read on him as someone who's not going for a free card(maybe with a medium pocket pair?) and you're pretty sure you have him beat(read: he is loose aggressive). Good times, ReMMy | ||
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| Re: Hand review, shorn, 3. Dec 2003 13:29 | ||
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| Don't fear a set until you are raised on the turn. I would have three bet the flop and then led the turn. If he called the flop 3-bet and raised the turn, then you need to be nervous about a set. Most players will wait until the turn to raise with a set. An alternate way of playing it (since the only overcard that worries you is a King) would be to call his raise and then checkraise the turn, then bet the river. There are many more instances where you will be facing only 1 pair than a set, so long term it can be profitable against a player who will pay you off. | ||
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| Re: Hand review, iceman5, 3. Dec 2003 13:48 | ||
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| Lets take the same hand but say there is no preflop raise. Would it be correct for him to raise the flop hpoing for a free card to hit his J on the turn or river? | ||
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| Re: Hand review, Schuster, 3. Dec 2003 13:54 | ||
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| Same hand no preflop raise, he'd be correct in raising because he might very well have the best hand! If he knew that you had AQ, he should fold because he's drawing to 3 outs, and even a "free card play" isn't going to swing the odds enough. But, since he might very well think his hand is best, he should play it aggressively to knock other people out who may hang around with weak draws. Lee | ||
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| Re: Hand review, MozMan, 3. Dec 2003 17:10 | ||
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| Put yourself in your opponent's position for a moment. He raises the flop because he has a pretty good kicker and wants to see if you are on AK. You just call his raise, so he thinks maybe you are; but then you bet into him again on the turn and river and he's not sure what to make of that. He calls down because he thinks it's still possible you might be on AK, and trying to bluff him out of the hand when you missed. Of course, at the time, you don't know this; so I would most likely reraise the flop to see if he's on a set. If he caps, then I think the set is likely and get out cheap on the turn with a check-fold. But if he just calls a reraise on the flop, then I am betting into him the rest of the way. Most likely he will fold on the turn and I take the pot right there. It worked out better for you, because you got him to call all the way, but that's a chancy way to play it because it's too easy for him to spike 2-pair. You really want as much information as you can get as early as possible, when the bets are still cheap. That's why a reraise on the flop might be best. -Moz "I bent my wookie..." | ||
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| Re: Hand review, Piers Majestyk, 3. Dec 2003 20:00 | ||
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| a raise on the flop screams KQ or QJ to me, I reraise the flop and continue betting the turn and river. | ||
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| Re: Hand review, Phish, 5. Dec 2003 01:34 | ||
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| Such an unremarkable ordinary hand. You really couldn't think of another hand from your session that you might've played differently or is more worthy of posting for discussion? If that's the case, then I'd suggest that you are not thinking deeply enough. | ||
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| Re: Hand review, iceman5, 5. Dec 2003 13:49 | ||
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| Wow Phish, that was such an unremarkably uninspiring response. Maybe you should do some deep thinking before answering us underlings. It was a simple question which I asked because I realized that I dont reraise enough and was asking if this was a good situation for it. | ||
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| Re: Hand review, Phish, 7. Dec 2003 11:43 | ||
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| I apologize. My response was out of line. | ||
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