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The "Palinya spell check" version of Bravo notes- SPOILERS!, Easy E, 3. Dec 2003 04:44
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[note- if this works, single and double quotes on THIS attempt were showing as ? marks.)

My expectations going in were that this would not be serious poker; I hoped it would be entertaining and funny.

I liked the opening animation graphics. My expectation of the poker play went down considerably when I found out that they were playing for charity and evidently it was a one-table tournament. Found out later, after a lot of BAD poker, that the winner moves on to the finals.

Kevin Pollack has gained weight! Time for South Beach, KP. The Christopher Walken imitation was pretty good and was amusing.

Only 5 players? Seems small. Not that they?ll probably know how to adjust strategy? maybe Affleck will.

Phil Gordon is the co-host? He seemed really stiff, at least at the beginning. Order some drinks from the requisite eye candy cocktail waitress, Tiltboy! Any Palms regulars- is that the standard waitress outfit? Seems to fit their image.

Not sure about the Dating Game announcers? desk? and the Losers Lounge LOOKS like one (bad Carson show takeoff?)

Commercial for the West Wing episode looks entertaining- is that a takeoff on Humberto?!
I was glad to see Phil announcing chip counts after the break. It was also nice to only see commercials every FIFTEEN minutes! WPT, ESPN- another note for the file!

Our "first" hand (no idea what hand it actually was). AQoff, K9d, ATd . Emily, you can?t just call here and leave Don in. Fold to the raise or reraise!

I like the simple graphics. I also like how the folded hand slides away from the displayed column.

Don Cheadale was underbetting pots a lot, IMO. The audience was pretty enthusiastic and loud- let's see THAT fly at a "real" poker table!

David Schwimmer- seemed like he was thinking like a limit poker player with many of his bad calls.

Don really likes those baby suited hands, and will raise with them. He needs to be careful (though the poker gods were looking out for him early on!)
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Ben Afflick seems like the best poker player of the bunch, or at least the one with some big-bet experience. It's too bad the players weren't playing with their OWN money, for REAL money. The show might have been less of a farce.

Phil Gordon was making some half-decent comments as the poker expert of the announcing team.

You knew it was coming, but I don?t like the post-loss talk-show portions of the show.

Kevin Pollack wasn't as funny as I expected. The Captain Kirk attempt was lame and his jokes weren't that funny. His poker knowledge wasn't too impressive, at least as an announcer. His "the flop helps no one" comment when the T95 flops on one hand, when it gave Willie the gutshot straight draw, was poor.

Did Don just call with A7c in order to suck Willie into putting him all-in? Or would that be too sophisticated a read?

In general, between the play, Willie and Don?s luck and the lack of valid strategy references by Kevin should breed some more poor poker players in the cardrooms.

Is "Prince of Darkness" the same thing as River Rat M-F? And Willie?s "strategy" of alternating loose and tight play only means something if you aren?t overly loose ALL of the hands that we saw!

Ahh, the Bravo version of the "2 minutes to go hand" rule. Goodbye Ben.

In summary, the show was not that entertaining, though they tried occasionally, and the poker was pretty poor. Hopefully episode #2 will be better (or at least more entertaining).
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Re: The "Palinya spell check" version of Bravo notes- SPOILERS!, hokie95, 3. Dec 2003 05:49
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I agree with this assessment. I am teaching my wife the basics (talk about the blind leading the blind) and we were watching it together. At one point I turned to her and said "This is NOT a teaching tool."

I mean, she called with a pair of 3's with (I think) 5 overcards on the board and a possible straight??? C'mon people. If you wanna show poker, have 'em play poker.

Finally, the announcer was really really bad. Several times he said that "that card helped no one." One time it gave 2 of the three players gutshot straight draws. Really really bad.

Gordon reprised my favorite Lederer comment, essentially saying "no, that's a pretty standard call" at one point.

Finally, yeah, hopefully someone I am about to play against watched Willy draw out on 13 different long shots in a row.
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Re: The "Palinya spell check" version of Bravo notes- SPOILERS!, Kymmer, 3. Dec 2003 09:21
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Well, in a way it is a teaching tool. I'm not that great of of NL player, but I was loudly questioning some of the bone-head moves and underbetting going on. If Schwimmer had gone all in 1st with his set of Aces, he would have shown strength and would have forced Cheadle (was it Cheadle? or the other gut guy?) to the hard decision on his flush draw. Instead he showed weakness with his puny raise and was put on the defensive....would this be a fair assessment? Do I actually know more about NL than I think I know? Is the world really round?

Do you want fries with that?.........
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Re: The "Palinya spell check" version of Bravo notes- SPOILERS!, BigRed1, 3. Dec 2003 11:19
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Just watch it for the "Entertainment" Value not the Poker Value.

But does some one want to take odds that tonight online tournaments will see
a lot of people playing 94s. (LOL)....
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Re: The "Palinya spell check" version of Bravo notes- SPOILERS!, Hatchthunder, 3. Dec 2003 07:35
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> Phil Gordon is the co-host? He seemed really stiff, at least at the beginning.
> Order some drinks from the requisite eye candy cocktail waitress, Tiltboy!

I always thought that Phil Gordon was Tallphil on UB.
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Search the web for Tiltboys, Easy E, 3. Dec 2003 08:19
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it will show you Phil's poker roots
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Re: The "Palinya spell check" version of Bravo notes- SPOILERS!, Candide, 3. Dec 2003 13:55
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Yeah, I know Tallphil is Phil G, but always wondered who tiltboy is.
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It's "Tiltboys" as in plural, Easy E, 4. Dec 2003 06:45
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It was a group of players who called themselves that, of which Phil Gordon was one.
Again, search the web, you should be able to find it.
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Re: It's "Tiltboys" as in plural, Hatchthunder, 4. Dec 2003 07:05
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Found the site. Thanks Easy. Pretty funny stories with those guys. Like the time they crashed a WOT(Womens Only Tourney) in drag and even finished in the money.
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