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THE ULTIMATE OVERLAY, ADAM THE EXPERT, 1. Dec 2003 19:00 | ||
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| FOR PEOPLE LOOKING TO LEARN POKER, WHILE MAKING MONEY, I HAVE A SUGGESTION: BUT FIRST, LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY ABOUT HOW ADAM THE EXPERT SPENT HIS THANKSGIVING (OK, I'M GONNA MIX IN FIRST AND THIRD PERSON, AS A COMPRAMISE) I PLAYED IN A 5-30 SPREAD LIMIT (CHOICE OF HOW MUCH TO BET) GAME, WHERE THE DEALER BUTTON, COULD CHOOSE OMAHA HIGH, OR HOLD EM. AND, I WAS GAURANTEED, NOT TO LOSE!!!!!! THE ULTIMATE OVERLAY. ANY GUESSES? NOOOO, I WAS NOT BEING "STAKED IN" NOOOOO I WAS NOT PLAYING "HOUSE CHIPS" I WAS DEALING!!! UP HERE IN 'ALASKA, THE DEALERS ARE REQUIRED TO PLAY, EVERY OTHER HOUR, THEN DEAL AN HOUR. IF THE GAME IS FULL, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PLAY, BUT THAT IS VERY RARE. AND, THE HOURLY DEALING INCOME, IS ABOUT 3 TIMES, THE AVERAGE OF THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. SO, AS LONG AS THE GAME LASTED AT LEAST SIX HOURS, I WAS GAUARANTEED, TO AT LEAST BREAK EVEN. WHAT A GAME!! A COUPLE OF LIVE ONES, WON ALMOST $1000 EACH. NOW, OF COURSE THIS OPPONTUNITY, DOES NOT APPLY TO MOST PEOPLE. BUT, YOU CAN BECOME A DEALER, IN "NORMAL" PLACES, AND MAKE 35,000 TO 60,000 A YEAR, WHILE YOU ARE LEARNING TO BECOME A POKER PROFESSIONAL. "SITTING IN THE BOX" OFFERS YOU THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO OBSERVE WINNING PLAYERS, WHILE BEING TOTALLY UN-NOTICED BY THEM. YOU CAN WATCH THE MOVES, OF PEOPLE YOU SEE ARE CONSISTENT WINNERS. YOU GET TO LEARN THE JARGON, AND ALL THE WHILE, ARE BEING PAID TO LEARN!!! NOW, MOST DEALERS, ARE HORRIBLE PLAYERS. THEY LET THE FRUSTRATION OF PUSHING POTS THAT MAY CONTAIN, DAYS, WEEKS, EVEN SEVERAL YEARS OF THEIR INCOME, TO PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING JERKS, AND THEY THINK "IF I COULD ONLY GET ONE OF THOSE" SO, THEY TAKE THEIR $200 IN TIPS, AND SIT IN A 20-40 GAME, HOPING TO HAVE A MIRICLE "RUSH" AND WIN TWO WEEKS PAY, IN ONE SHOT. THEY DON'T BOTHER TO STUDY, AND THEY OFTEN PLAY, RIGHT AFTER A SHIFT, WHEN THEY ARE TIRED. BUT, THAT WON'T BE YOU, WILL IT?? NO, YOU ARE GOING TO STUDY, AND ARE GOING TO BE DISCIPLINED ENOUGH, NOT TO PLAY WHEN TIRED. NOTE TO DEALERS WHO DON'T PLAY: YOU WILL BE TENS TIMES MORE POPULAR WITH MANAGEMENT, IF YOU PLAY, THEN IF YOU DON'T. MANY PLACES WON'T EVEN HIRE YOU, IF YOU DON'T PLAY. IF YOU ARE WORKING AT A CLUB THAT NOT ONLY DOESN'T FORCE YOU TO PLAY, BUT BANS IT, GOOD FOR YOU. BUT, THE REALITY OF LIFE AS A DEALER, IS THAT JOBS DON'T LAST FOREVER, AND YOU'LL BE MUCH MORE "HIREABLE" WHEN IT'S TIME FOR THE NEXT JOB. SO, LEARN HOW TO PLAY, CORRECTLY. FOR THOSE CONSIDERING A POKER CAREER, REMEMBER, PLAYING POKER (ESPECIALLY NOW, W\ITH THE INTERNET) IS THE WORLD'S BEST PART JOB BUSINESS, AND. . . . THE WORLD'S HARDEST FULL-TIME JOB. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A DEALER, FINE, BUT HAVE SOME OTHER SOURCE OF MONEY COMING IN. BY THE WAY, THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PLAYER I KNOW "NICE GUY WITH JEWISH SURNAME" DID EXACTLY WHAT ADAM THE EXPERT SAYS HE STARTED OUT AS A DEALER, MADE 83 TONS OF MONEY, THEN TOOK TEN GRAND, AND WENT TO PLAY. HE SAID "IF I CAN MAKE 10,000 WITHIN 3 WEEKS, I'LL QUIT DEALING, AND BE A FULL TIME PROFESSIONAL" WELL, HE MADE 17,000 IN THE FIRST 11 DAYS, AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE MONTH IN 1995, WHERE HE WAS "RUNNING BAD" A WENT BACK TO DEALING, HE HAS NEVER LOOKED BACK!! HE MADE A STEADY PROGRESSION IN LIMITS, AND HIS SKILL AND BANKROLL LEVEL, ALLOWED. LAST I HEARD, HE OWNED A SHIPLOAD OF CONDOS, MOSTLY BOUGHT, WITH POKER WINNINGS. SO, BECOMING A DEALER, IS A STRONG CONSIDERATION, FOR ANYONE WANTING TO BECOME A PROFESSIONAL PLAYER. A LITTLE TIP, FROM ADAM A.T.E. | ||
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Re: THE ULTIMATE OVERLAY, Schuster, 1. Dec 2003 20:48 | ||
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| How difficult is it to become a top quality dealer? How much does a good dealer school cost? How easy is it to get a job after getting out of a good school? I've always thought that if I were to go pro, I'd definately get a dealer job on the side when I started out. It seems like a no brainer -- you get poker practice while making a steady income. Thanks in advance Adam. Lee | ||
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Re: THE ULTIMATE OVERLAY, ADAM THE EXPERT, 2. Dec 2003 05:23 | ||
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| IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE IRRESPONSIBLE, FOR ADAM THE EXPERT TO JUST SAY "BECOME A DEALER" AS THOUGH YOU COULD JUST SNAP YOUR FINGERS, AND IT'S DONE. VERY RARELY, DO I FAIL TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, THAT THE AVERAGE PERSON, MIGHT NOT PICK UP PHYSICAL SKILLS, AS EASILY AS ADAM THE EXPERT. I WAS IN A HURRY, AND SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD THIS POST, WITHOUT INDICATING, THAT'S IT'S NOT THAT EASY, TO "BREAK IN" AS WE CALL IT. OK, HERE GOES. A GOOD DEALING SCHOOL, WILL RUN YOU AROUND TWO GRAND, FIVE FOR A COMPLETE PROGRAM, THAT INCLUDES BLACKJACK, SO-CALLED "ASIAN" GAMES (PAI GOW, SUPER PAN NINE, ETC. THE BEST SCHOOLS, HAVE A PLACEMENT SERVICE, TO GET YOU A JOB, AFTER GRADUATION AS FAR AS HOW "HARD" IT IS, THIS DEPENDS ON YOUR ABILITY TO LEARN THE PHYSICAL SKILLS, AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU WERE ALREADY A PLAYER, BEFORE LEARNING HOW TO DEAL. IF YOU HAVE PLAYED ALL GAMES, AND KNOW THEM, AS WELL AS THE LINGO, YOU ARE HALF WAY THERE!!!! NOW, "BREAKING IN" IS ANOTHER STORY. MOST MAJOR CASINOS, WON'T TAKE YOU, WITHOUT EXPERIENCE. SO, YOU MAY HAVE TO SEEK OUT, A PLACE, WHERE THE TIPS ARE VERY LOW, AND THEY WILL TAKE ANYONE WHO CAN SHUFFLE THE CARDS. LIKE ANY OTHER OCCUPATION, YOU HAVE TO PAY YOUR DUES. NOW, IF YOU ARE VERY VERY VERY GOOD, AT YOUR "AUDITION" (YES, YOU AUDITION, JUST LIKE FOR A PLAY, OR MOVIE, THE D.C. (DEALER COORDINATOR) MAY VERY WELL TAKE YOU. THE NORMAL RULE IN HIRING DEALERS IS: IF THERE IS A SPOT OPEN, AND YOU ARE GOOD, THEY WILL TAKE YOU, AND AND IF YOU ARE EXCELLENT, THEN THEY WILL MAKE A SPOT FOR YOU, EVEN IF ONE IS NOT OPEN!!!!! SO, YOU BETTER MAKE DAMN SURE, YOU ARE READY FOR THAT AUDITION, OR YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SPEND THE FIRST YEAR, IN SOME PODUNK PLACE, BARELY MAKING ANY TOKES AT ALL. ADAM THE EXPERT RECOMMENDS A COMBINATION OF A GOOD SCHOOL, AND PRIVATE TUTORING, FROM AN EXPERT DEALER. LOOK AROUND AT THE CLUB WHER YOU PLAY, AND SEEK OUT THE BEST DEALERS. OFFER THEM $30 AN HOUR, TO HELP TRAIN YOU IF YOU HAVE A PLACE TO PRACTICE, YOU MIGHT EVEN GET BY, WITHOUT THE SCHOOL. THERE ARE A TON OF SMALL CLUBS, IN THIS COUNTRY, AND THEY ARE FAR MORE FORGIVING, OF UNEXPERIENCED DEALERS. THE MAIN FACTOR THEY ARE LOOKING FOR, IS SOMEONE WHO WILL SHOW UP, AND IS LIKED BY THE CUSTOMERS. ONCE YOU'RE READY, A VERY VERY VERY GOOD STRATEGY, IS TO START PLAYING, AT A CLUB WHERE YOU'D LIKE TO DEAL, SHOW UP, WITH YOUR DEALING CLOTHS IN YOUR CAR, AND YOU MIGHT JUST FIND YOURSELF DEALING SOME DAY. OF COURSE, THIS ONLY APPLIES, IN JURISTICTIONS, WHERE THE POLICE ARE LAX, IN LETTING SOMEONE DEAL ONE DAY, WITHOUT A PERMIT. MOST CARDROOM OWNERS AND MANAGERS, LOVE DEALERS WHO PLAY, IT'S LIKE GETTING AN EMPLOYEE AND A CUSTOMER, ALL IN ONE. SO, IF YOU "HAND OUT" AND LET IT BE KNOWN THAT YOU DEAL, YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING HIRED, IF YOU ARE ANY GOOD AT ALL, ARE EXCELLENT. BY THE WAY, IF YOU HAVE ENJOYED MY POSTS, PLEASE COME TO MY DEFENSE, AGAINST THIS "BLADE" PERSON THANKS A.T.E. | ||
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Re: THE ULTIMATE OVERLAY, Schuster, 2. Dec 2003 09:48 | ||
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| Hi Adam. I already have pretty good card and chip handling skills, and I can read hands in all games quite well. One local club did ask me to deal for a tournament but I declined, maybe next time I'll take them up on it. As for "defending" you... this isn't a battle, it's a poker forum. The main theme of UPF is civility towards others. Please, keep that in mind, and let's keep this a great place for everyone. Lee | ||
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