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 Not a bad beat story, a bad start story, Guy F, 30. Nov 2003 18:42 | ||
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| Instead of posting the usual bad beat story, I'm looking for opinions on bad starting. For the last couple of weeks I can only seem to get a decent starting hand once in maybe 20-30 hands (a couple three times round the table). Nothing huge, just the average Lee Jones starting stuff by position. And of course when I do get one the flop only hits me once in a while (which as I understand it is normal). So, over a few hours I might get to play a half dozen hands after the flop. I watch the board after I fold, and there aren't many hands where I would have won if I'd stayed in, even staying to the river for a miracle. Not only is it boring, it's also unprofitable as there's no chance of beating the blinds and rake. I don't really want to loosen up my standards for fear of developing bad habits that will get me into trouble in tourneys or higher limits (this is LL HE, but I'm not sure that's relevant as my understanding is the starting standards are more or less the same for any limits). It all comports nicely with what I've read in books after the flop, but I don't have a good sense of how many decent starting hands I should expect to see in a few trips round the table. I'm not sure if I was running hotter than average before, or colder than average now, so I'm hoping to get some more experienced views. Thanks. | ||
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| Re: Not a bad beat story, a bad start story, Raodwarior, 1. Dec 2003 10:39 | ||
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| on 30. Nov 2003 18:42 Guy F wrote: I watch the board after I fold, and there aren't many hands where I would > have won if I'd stayed in, even staying to the river for a miracle. Not only is > it boring, it's also unprofitable as there's no chance of beating the blinds and > rake. > Guy, How is this unprofitable??? You have no need to worry about the rake since your not in the pots for the most part and the few blinds you lose are easily recovered when the hand you are looking for comes around. These ARE the profitable decisions, not to get involved with suspect hands and to release a hand when its beaten or will be very difficult to improve. Heck the other night I went 5 full rounds without seeing a flop (and that includes the blinds). I waited and didn't get loose the cards came around and I posted a nice profit for the night. Patience and discipline IMO are the foundations of winning poker. Instead of being bored, work on reading your opponents hands, see if you can find a tell or two. Maybe its just me but I tend to work on my game as hard when I am out of a hand as when I am in one. | ||
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| Re: Not a bad beat story, a bad start story, LJH, 1. Dec 2003 16:08 | ||
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| GUY F, PATIENCE IS THE GREAT WATCHWORD. WHO KNOWS HOW MANY PLAYABLE HANDS YOU WILL GET PER HOUR----MAYBE NONE, BUT IF YOU LOWER YOUR STARTING REQUIREMENTS DOWN YOU WILL. GO. INSTEAD OF BEING BORED START WATCHING THE OTHER PLAYERS SO WHEN THE TIME COMES YOU WILL HAVE THERM PEGGED. LJH | ||
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