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 Reality check, iceman5, 29. Nov 2003 07:38 | ||
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| I need an outside opinion on this. I started keeping very good records shortly after I started playing Holdem. Ive played a little over 350 hours at .25/.50, .50/1.00, and $1/$2. Ive averaged 3.7 BB/hr. Then I moved up to $2/$4. The first 30 hours I averaged 3.3BB so I was very happy. But now after 63 total hours at $2/$4 my average is only 0.7 BB/hr. I was losing badly for a while and now am only breaking even. I know 63 hours is not a lot and 0.7BB is not THAT bad. I am still winning after all but after having so much success I cant seem to figure whats wrong. I have gotten horrible cards for a while now but I hate to blame it on that. My stats show that I normally go to the river 1 in every 10.6 hands and win 55% of the showdowns. Yesterday I played 250 hands and the cards were so bad I only got to the river 4 times (I won 3 of them). I have read "Hold em for advanced players" 3 times and Im in the middle of "Middle Limit Holdem". I thoroughly understand most of the concepts now . Maybe I should be glad that I never had to learn Holdem the hard way (by losing a lot of money). Ive only been playing for about 5 months. What do you think so far? Choose one. 1) Its time to accept the fact that you are an average player. 2) Youre long term results are very good. Even your 0.7BB rate is pretty good after just moving up a level and you should continue to play and are doing just fine. Any other comments would be appreciated. By the way..I play under the name "utrecht" on Pokerstars if anyone wants to come check me out. | ||
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| Re: Reality check, Charles Kincy, 29. Nov 2003 08:17 | ||
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| 63 hours is not enough for a reliable measurement. Even after 200-300 hours, it's reasonably possible for players of the same skill level to differ by 0.5 BB/hr or more. | ||
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| Re: Reality check, rambler, 29. Nov 2003 22:01 | ||
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| If you coming out ahead or breaking even it would seem reasonable to keep playing at the higher level if your goal is to get better. If you want to make a few bucks now then definitely play at the lower level. I try to play in several different level games each week. That way I make a few bucks in the soft games and learn something playing against more skilled opponents. | ||
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| Re: Reality check, MA's Dad, 29. Nov 2003 22:40 | ||
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| On a side note: I just watched you get rivered 3 times in maybe 5 or 6 hands and none from me. I feel your pain. I had similair good runs until lately. "Croaker" on PokerStars | ||
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| Re: Reality check, iceman5, 30. Nov 2003 07:45 | ||
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| Yes Croaker, I did get hammered on the river yesterday. Lost AA to JJ at the river when he caught 4 of his suit. I lost K's and J's at the river. An I lost the nut flush to a full house at the river. I was playing 2 tables and won big at the other table. I only played for an hour and won a total of 18BBs between the 2 tables so I actually had a very good session. Nice to see a fellow Pokerstars player here. | ||
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| Re: Reality check, TeKn0wLeD-G, 1. Dec 2003 10:30 | ||
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| iceman, i play on PokerStars [amongst others] as well, as 'tekn0wledg.' lately i've experienced similar situations myself, bad beats: full house to four of a kind, four of a kind to another four of a kind, straight flush to a higher straight flush, not to mention the standard out draws on the river. this was following weeks of successful positive play, give or take a down day or two. to heal my wounds so to speak, i've returned to the super low limit tables [anywhere from .01/.02 to .25/.50] to get my game back in check. while my tournament play has been better than normal, i was still struggling with ring games. the next step in ensuring i was playing my best was to stop playing multiple tables at once. this allowed me 100% concentration on one game. while i am not saying multiple table play is bad, i wanted to ensure that i was not losing focus at all in order to better evaluate my play. i've done decent since i've made those adjustments, and finished up 20+BB yesterday. one thing i noticed that i was doing when i was on my huge losing streak [two weeks of below normal play, with 50/50 winning/losing sessions] was that i was chasing my losses. what i mean is, when i had a good hand, where i raised pre-flop, and had top pair, or in most cases, or two pair [i have more losses with two pair than any other hand! shocking!], i would keep raising the pot when there was an obvious shot at a straight, flush or full house. because i wasp laying poorly at the time, my human desire for action and winning made me keep clicking that raise button, instead of checking and calling in the appropriate situations. i lose quite a bit of money in just a few days playing this way. fortunately i was able to take a step back and realize what i was doing wrong and adjusted accordingly. now, unless i have an indication of otherwise, i will either call, or fold in those situations, and then re-evaluate on the next round of betting. i've saved myself a tun of money doing this, and as such i am less 'hungry' to win every decent hand i get that may not be the nuts. not to mention, this has helped me to become more aggressive in situations where i do have the best hand, and has since started to increase my daily totals once again. i am now above even again, and doing rather well. will it last? in this game, doubtful, you need to constantly adjust. but i will keep doing my best and be aware of situations where i might be 'chasing' again. additionally, i've also started to trust my gut more, instead of always playing the numbers. anyway, best of luck returning to profitable play. don't give up. everyone goes through those streaks. | ||
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