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 Ask a Pro - Mike and Roy's responses, FloorMan, 27. Nov 2003 10:17 | ||
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| Hi folks, Below is an excerpt of the Ask a Pro trial that was held at Planet Poker on Tuesday night. There was a lot of interest in this event so 3 more dates have been added with a variety of UPF poker pros sitting in. If you have a question, please join us at the Ask a Pro table at 8:30 pm ET on December 2nd, 9th and/or 16th. Enjoy! PP_TECH Welcome Mike and Roy! Thank you for joining us! PP_TECH Are you both ready to start fielding questions? PP_TECH Hi folks, Ladyslip can take us out once we start LadySlip me first? festiva yes LadySlip I'm new to poker, been playing online at the LadySlip lower limits and now I want to try in Vegas LadySlip I am comfortable with a $200 bankroll, where LadySlip should I go? RoyCooke Two hundred will give you a shot, but is not a RoyCooke good bankroll to sustain a lot of losses...I RoyCooke would go to a strip casino like the Mirage that RoyCooke has an influx of tourists...The tourist money is RoyCooke MUCH liver than the local money END PP_TECH Mike? anything to add? MIKE_CARO I agree with what Roy said, but I might add MIKE_CARO that... MIKE_CARO an even better place for online players to try MIKE_CARO real-world poker might be the Los Angeles area. MIKE_CARO There are many more loose games there. END LadySlip thank you PP_TECH Thanks guys, Ladyslip I hope that helps. PP_TECH Festiva take your best shot. LadySlip I'll let you know how I make out! :-) festiva From poker without cards you mentioned that it festiva makes no difference what price is paid for festiva something only what it is worth at the moment festiva does this mean that all technical investment festiva either of the poker sort or the wall street sort festiva are all nonsensical? PP_TECH Mike? you are up. MIKE_CARO Yes, festiva, what I mean is that MIKE_CARO whatever you have "invested" doesn't mean MIKE_CARO anything in regard to the decision you must make. MIKE_CARO It would be the same decision whether you put MIKE_CARO half the money in the pot or none of it. You MIKE_CARO simply measure the value of what's out there MIKE_CARO relative to how much it costs to wager. That's MIKE_CARO true in life, including stocks. END. PP_TECH Roy has something to add. RoyCooke That concept is HUGE in Real Estate also! festiva Thanks to both of you! PP_TECH Thanks festiva PP_TECH Frost, your turn up to bat. Frost do you feel there is a difference in bankroll Frost needed online as apposed to a live game? PP_TECH Roy, let's start with you. PP_TECH festiva, can you please go to the rail so others PP_TECH can get in the question cue? RoyCooke Yes, I think you need a larger bankroll to play RoyCooke online...The edge factor is much smaller as you RoyCooke don't have visual tells and aids ...With a RoyCooke smaller edge factor you need a larger bankroll to RoyCooke make sure you keep in action! END PP_TECH Mike? anything to add? MIKE_CARO Everything Roy said is unarguably true. You MIKE_CARO should also keep in ;mind that you can play more MIKE_CARO than one game at once online and that you will MIKE_CARO get many more hands per hour. That also may mean MIKE_CARO you should have more cushion online. MIKE_CARO END PP_TECH thanks Mike PP_TECH Frost, I hope that helps. Frost thank you PP_TECH tyvm PP_TECH Tazshort, You are up! Tazshort tournament question Tazshort i have played in several limit no limit holdem Tazshort tournaments and usually come in top 10% Tazshort never any better Tazshort 300-1,000 buy ins 150 to 300 players Tazshort how can i improve ? PP_TECH Mike, let's start with you! MIKE_CARO Tazshort, first of all, you can't expect to MIKE_CARO improve on that performance. That doesn't mean MIKE_CARO you can't improve your game, but you've probably MIKE_CARO been fortunate to finish in the top 10 percent MIKE_CARO that often. I, myself, wouldn't have that high an MIKE_CARO expectation. However, keep in mind that the best MIKE_CARO way to finish high in a tournament, no-limit MIKE_CARO especially, is to SURVIVE. That means you need to MIKE_CARO sacrifice some normal-game edges. END PP_TECH Roy, anything to add? RoyCooke Mike is right in what he says...I do think that RoyCooke some players that do not close tourneys do so RoyCooke because they play to cash and not to win and give RoyCooke up a big edge to aggressive minded players that RoyCooke are playing to win...If that is an issue with you RoyCooke you might need to get more aggressive when close! RoyCooke END Tazshort i think i need to be more aggressive PP_TECH Mike would like to add one more comment MIKE_CARO What Roy says about good players dominating MIKE_CARO through aggression late in a tournament is Tazshort never seem to have any ammo when late in the game MIKE_CARO absolutely true, remember that there is a penalty MIKE_CARO in a proportional payout tournament -- the winner MIKE_CARO has to gather all the chips and then pay most of MIKE_CARO the prize pool to competitors. Again, that means MIKE_CARO play to SURVIVE! END PP_TECH Thanks Tazzshort, I hope that helps. Tazshort thank you PP_TECH bluntking, batter up! bluntking after winning several hands without showing, is bluntking it ever correct to call down a big pair, even if bluntking you know that it's beat? PP_TECH Mike, let's start with you. bluntking with a big pair? MIKE_CARO bluntking, if I MIKE_CARO understand your question, you want to know if you MIKE_CARO should ever call, even if you know you're beat. MIKE_CARO The answer that, if you're still having drawing MIKE_CARO chances, yes if the odds are right. AND even if MIKE_CARO it's a showdown and you're sure to lose, you MIKE_CARO might sometimes call! What??? MIKE_CARO Because if your hand looks strong, such as in MIKE_CARO 7-stud, you don't want your opponents to see that MIKE_CARO you're bluffable. END PP_TECH Roy, anything to add? RoyCooke I never call when I am sure to be beat in order RoyCooke to stop people bluffing me...I make a call or a RoyCooke play at the point I think I am being bluffed! END PP_TECH I hope that helps, bluntking. PP_TECH PokerGod_1, your turn PokerGod_1 after 5 straight winning months on here I've hit a PokerGod_1 horrible month of cold cards and heart breaking PokerGod_1 rivers PokerGod_1 now i know there are swings in this game PokerGod_1 but i feel like i can't make a right play PokerGod_1 how do i get out of this slump with out losing my PokerGod_1 mind PokerGod_1 and ripping all my hair out PokerGod_1 lol PP_TECH Roy, let's start with you RoyCooke Trust me ...I DO know how you feel :-) RoyCooke I take breaks...go on vacations...Read poker RoyCooke material and not play again until I am mentally RoyCooke fresh and prepared to fight......END MIKE_CARO MOST of the long-term profit in poker is made by MIKE_CARO NOT adding to losses, instead of adding to wins. MIKE_CARO That means that, although streaks like you're MIKE_CARO experiencing can be expected, you need to MIKE_CARO minimize the damage. END PP_TECH Thanks PokerGod_1. I hope that helps. PokerGod_1 just ride it out huh PokerGod_1 ok tyvm PP_TECH Beanoville, your turn. Beanoville i have read all your books including sklansky and Beanoville malmuth Beanoville I'm not very good at statistics i need a good book Beanoville about hold em statistics MIKE_CARO You wanted to know about stats. Try Poker1.com, MIKE_CARO which is affiliated with Planet Poker. There is a MIKE_CARO complete stats library there, and more to be MIKE_CARO added soon. END Beanoville ok ty lost touch of poker mentor i see a long list Beanoville tyvm PP_TECH Thanks Beanoville. I hope that helps. PP_TECH Sull, your turn. Sull does a good no limit poker holdem player always Sull play by odds and statistics? PP_TECH Roy, let's start with you. RoyCooke The best poker players are the players that read MIKE_CARO Hi, Sull... The short answer is that EVERYTHING MIKE_CARO sorry! RoyCooke players minds and mannerism well.....Not the best PP_TECH Roy go ahead Sull ok, back to the books... Sull ty RoyCooke mathematician Let me start this over: RoyCooke The best poker players are the ones that read RoyCooke players minds and mannerism well not those that RoyCooke are the best at math! END PP_TECH Mike? anything you would like to add? MIKE_CARO Psychology ultimately CAN BE REDUCED to odds and MIKE_CARO statistics, but we think of it as a separate MIKE_CARO poker science. To me, tells are almost as Sull but you can't be really good without it, huh? MIKE_CARO important as knowing pot odds, but some players MIKE_CARO feel more comfortable just ignoring opposing MIKE_CARO personalities and playing their cards. It's your MIKE_CARO choice. END Sull loved your tells book PP_TECH Roy, an additional point? RoyCooke I think being good at tells is MORE important RoyCooke than knowing pot odds! END Sull ty PP_TECH Thanks Sull. I hope that helped. Sull very much PP_TECH Mr. Fox, batter up! Mr.Fox thanks, I'm writing a book on my year long quest Mr.Fox to become a poker pro, played my first game in Mr.Fox march, and am getting to the realities of making Mr.Fox a living doing it. Mr.Fox I've looked at high end tournaments, but with Mr.Fox house fees, tournament personnel fees and taxes Mr.Fox they really aren't a good bet, and rake really Mr.Fox kills low limit games, what do you think about Mr.Fox ways that people can actually make a living doing Mr.Fox this? Mr.Fox keep in mind that i know it may not be realistic, PP_TECH Mike? MIKE_CARO OK, Mr.Fox... It's like this... Mr.Fox but I'm making money, and it's really for the Mr.Fox book. MIKE_CARO Yes, the rakes are proportionally larger in the MIKE_CARO smaller games, but the caliber of play is much MIKE_CARO worse. Sometimes this balances, sometimes not. MIKE_CARO What you need to keep in mind is that in high MIKE_CARO rake games you'd often like to play against MIKE_CARO bigger fields of opponents competing for the pot, MIKE_CARO because then the percentage of rake is smaller MIKE_CARO relative to the size of your win. END PP_TECH Roy, over to you. RoyCooke I see VERY few players making a living year in RoyCooke year out from tourneys...i do see many making a RoyCooke living at the medium limit games and higher...If RoyCooke you want to make poker a career you are probably RoyCooke best off in the middle limit ring games...where RoyCooke you can make enough to live on and the RoyCooke competition is not overly tough! END MIKE_CARO I agree with Roy about tournaments and seldom MIKE_CARO play ;them because profits are more consistent in MIKE_CARO standard game. END PP_TECH Thanks Mr.Fox. I hope that helps. Mr.Fox Many thanks, I'll start working on my limit game Mr.Fox again. PP_TECH bucs 2002, Batter up! bucs2002 in a NL ring game how would you both play AK pre bucs2002 flop if someone raised very large before you PP_TECH Mike? bucs2002 or if its been raised and reraised before MIKE_CARO I often would not play the hand at all. That's MIKE_CARO in a tournament. MIKE_CARO The reason is you're probably against a pair or MIKE_CARO maybe THE pair of aces or kings and in no-limit MIKE_CARO you want to lead, not call, and in a tournament MIKE_CARO you want to survive. However, in ring games, you MIKE_CARO would usually substantially reraised a medium MIKE_CARO raise, but not always a large one. END PP_TECH Roy, your turn. RoyCooke It depends on the texture of my opponent...If he RoyCooke only raise in that spot with a premium hand I RoyCooke would fold...If he would fold many hands I would RoyCooke likely reraise him.....How many chips he RoyCooke has...What hand he would put me on would all RoyCooke factor in...It is a tough decision that can be RoyCooke played many different ways based on the texture RoyCooke of your opponent! END bucs2002 ok thanks both MIKE_CARO What Roy said is important. The nature of your MIKE_CARO opponents is what usually decides how to play AK MIKE_CARO against a raise. I agree. END PP_TECH Thanks bucs 2002, I hope that helps. bucs2002 AK is the toughest hand in nl i think MIKE_CARO AGREED PP_TECH tonyo, your turn for a question. tonyo did moneymaker winning the wsop shock you and has tonyo the game in a casino changed because of on line tonyo gaming PP_TECH Roy? tonyo or the way it's played RoyCooke I did think Moneymaker winning was RoyCooke unusual....That said, he deserves a lot of credit RoyCooke for hanging tough in a VERY tough RoyCooke situation.....Other players with little experience RoyCooke have won the WSOP and the beauty of poker is on RoyCooke any given day anyone can win....In regards to RoyCooke online gaming I think it has helped live poker RoyCooke greatly...The cardrooms in Las Vegas are as full RoyCooke of good games as I have ever seen them....Many of RoyCooke them came to poker through the Internet! END PP_TECH Mike? anything to add? MIKE_CARO No, that says most of it. Money maker MIKE_CARO was great for poker and online play has enhanced MIKE_CARO the popularity of the game. No arguments there. MIKE_CARO END PP_TECH Thanks tonyo, I hope that helps. tonyo thanks guys ...you rock.... PP_TECH We have time for two more questions. PP_TECH Sunny? your turn Sunny I have a question ...last night i played head up Sunny in a 15/30 8 o better stud game and my opponent Sunny was disconnected FOU Sunny R TIMES in a row on the bring in...why? and I Sunny never received his $7.50 ...just the ante...why? Sunny also why is the game down today? PP_TECH sounds like a tech question PP_TECH Tuesday am is maintenance day at Planet PP_TECH usually every Tuesday from 9 am-11 am ET PP_TECH I will have a tech contact you regarding your PP_TECH connectivity issue. I hope we can help. PP_TECH trogdor? do you have a poker question? Sunny and where is the game gone to? trogdor yeah trogdor i have read everything by you mc trogdor as well as slansky and hellmuth trogdor but i still don't do very well trogdor i bit less than break even trogdor in all game trogdor live or online trogdor is there anything other than reading that i can trogdor do to improve my game? PP_TECH Mike? MIKE_CARO well, trogdor, if MIKE_CARO you've read everything by me and are losing, MIKE_CARO that's not a good recommendation. MIKE_CARO There are, fortunately, many great books today... MIKE_CARO Roy has several that have even inspired me. END PP_TECH Roy? RoyCooke I would be persistent and focused...Keep trying trogdor mostly i was wondering trogdor if there is any way other than books RoyCooke to learn....There are no easy answers...Poker is trogdor like a tutor or sorts RoyCooke HARD work! END PP_TECH Roy? Mike? do we have time for one more question? trogdor thank you, ill look at roys books PP_TECH Thanks trogdoor MIKE_CARO Yes, and trogdor should MIKE_CARO look for interactive online lessons at MCU coming MIKE_CARO soon trogdor thanks PP_TECH fordo7, last man standing? PP_TECH final question please fordo7 there are currently 4 poker shows slated for fordo7 cablenetworks compared to only 1 last year will fordo7 this accelerate the poker boom or has it already fordo7 already peaked? PP_TECH Roy? let's start with you. RoyCooke I think it will continue to grow.....Many players RoyCooke have become interested in poker through the TV RoyCooke coverage and NBC, a major network is going to do RoyCooke a WPT event on the day of the SuperBowl...That RoyCooke should be great for poker! END PP_TECH Mike? MIKE_CARO Agreed. Poker has a lot more room to grow. That's MIKE_CARO because it's not yet a mature market. Only a MIKE_CARO small fraction of the population is aware of the MIKE_CARO poker boom. So, yes, we're going to grow. END PP_TECH Mike and Roy. Thanks for coming. fordo7 ty boyh MIKE_CARO It's been a lot of fun. I truly appreciate all of MIKE_CARO you and your interest in serious poker. That's MIKE_CARO what helps the game grow. Love you all. Visit MIKE_CARO unitedpokerforum.com for discussions with Roy and MIKE_CARO me. Bye. END RoyCooke Thank you all for the good questions and I hope RoyCooke you all learned something from the event...I RoyCooke enjoyed myself and hope you all did too...Thanks RoyCooke Again :-) END PP_TECH Thanks all for attending. We will do it again PP_TECH next Tuesday night PP_TECH tyvm | ||
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