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No Limit AKs preflop, rdale, 26. Nov 2003 21:01 | ||
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| Played a no limit tournament tonight, held AKs and was fairly short stacked at 1800, average stack was around 4500 or 5000, and chip leader was at 10k or so. In mid position with two limps to me, I push all in in with AK for 1800 and some change, the big blind was all in from the blind. I try to not play for second or third, screw the the top ten, I play to win. Called by two early limpers and of course the the trapped big blind, I thought I was getting ready to steal the limpers bets, but one player had chips to cover me, the other was all in under my bet both called. Flop comes J8x rainbow, turn is a K I start to fill really good about the hand, I've about got this one under wraps unless someone played AA hoping for aggression like mine. River is a 2 and I'm still happy no straight and no flush on the board, and the big chip guy flips 22. Rivered by 22 for the set. Anyways a 5600 pot slides his way, which would have evened me back to average and eliminated two players while doing a dent in a chip leader, I'm out on a coin flip, but that is poker right? I am left with wondering if I had waited to all in on the turn with a moderate preflop raise if I would have pulled the pot, or if all in preflop was the move, it should have scared the jebus out of him except I had moved all in short stacked with weaker holdings, the other caller had AQ and missed and I'm pretty sure 22 not improving would have folded to aggression on the K, tough to tell if I played it correct preflop because of the outcome. I think a preflop raise would have induced a bet on the flop from late position 22 in an attempt to steal, although I would probably bet any flop that I preflop raised before he got a chance out of principle. I guess I got lucky, and someone else got luckier, and I played the hand correct coming over the top for more than the pot preflop. Trying to pick this apart but I play to win, and I think this was the winners play even though I lost what is essentially a coin flip. Don't get me wrong I'm not mad I lost, I'm just trying to figure out if I did this right. | ||
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Re: No Limit AKs preflop, KJo, 26. Nov 2003 21:06 | ||
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| You didn't say what the blinds were, but assuming you were in poor chip position as you said your all in pre-flop is fine. Remember that you're better off not seeing a flop. If some jackass is gonna call with 22, nothing you can do about it. Eli on 26. Nov 2003 21:01 rdale wrote: > Played a no limit tournament tonight, held AKs and was fairly short stacked at > 1800, average stack was around 4500 or 5000, and chip leader was at 10k or so. > In mid position with two limps to me, I push all in in with AK for 1800 and some > change, the big blind was all in from the blind. I try to not play for second or > third, screw the the top ten, I play to win. Called by two early limpers and of > course the the trapped big blind, I thought I was getting ready to steal the > limpers bets, but one player had chips to cover me, the other was all in under > my bet both called. Flop comes J8x rainbow, turn is a K I start to fill really > good about the hand, I've about got this one under wraps unless someone played > AA hoping for aggression like mine. River is a 2 and I'm still happy no straight > and no flush on the board, and the big chip guy flips 22. Rivered by 22 for the > set. Anyways a 5600 pot slides his way, which would have evened me back to > average and eliminated two players while doing a dent in a chip leader, I'm out > on a coin flip, but that is poker right? > I am left with wondering if I had waited to all in on the turn with a moderate > preflop raise if I would have pulled the pot, or if all in preflop was the move, > it should have scared the jebus out of him except I had moved all in short > stacked with weaker holdings, the other caller had AQ and missed and I'm pretty > sure 22 not improving would have folded to aggression on the K, tough to tell if > I played it correct preflop because of the outcome. I think a preflop raise > would have induced a bet on the flop from late position 22 in an attempt to > steal, although I would probably bet any flop that I preflop raised before he > got a chance out of principle. I guess I got lucky, and someone else got > luckier, and I played the hand correct coming over the top for more than the pot > preflop. Trying to pick this apart but I play to win, and I think this was the > winners play even though I lost what is essentially a coin flip. Don't get me > wrong I'm not mad I lost, I'm just trying to figure out if I did this right. | ||
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Re: No Limit AKs preflop, rdale, 27. Nov 2003 06:39 | ||
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| I believe the level was at 300-600, and i'm pretty sure it was about a 450 tax on the round, but that part is fuzzy now. I know I was feeling the pressure to get my move on and soon. | ||
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Re: No Limit AKs preflop, Roy Cooke, 27. Nov 2003 07:01 | ||
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| I would have moved all-in and hoped the players with chips folded which would increase my chance of survival...If they call...Then I still have a good shot to win. With your chip position at the time you need to get something good going quickly....If you triple through...you can start to play...I like your play :-) Life is Good :-) Roy Cooke on 26. Nov 2003 21:01 rdale wrote: > Played a no limit tournament tonight, held AKs and was fairly short stacked at > 1800, average stack was around 4500 or 5000, and chip leader was at 10k or so. > In mid position with two limps to me, I push all in in with AK for 1800 and some > change, the big blind was all in from the blind. I try to not play for second or > third, screw the the top ten, I play to win. Called by two early limpers and of > course the the trapped big blind, I thought I was getting ready to steal the > limpers bets, but one player had chips to cover me, the other was all in under > my bet both called. Flop comes J8x rainbow, turn is a K I start to fill really > good about the hand, I've about got this one under wraps unless someone played > AA hoping for aggression like mine. River is a 2 and I'm still happy no straight > and no flush on the board, and the big chip guy flips 22. Rivered by 22 for the > set. Anyways a 5600 pot slides his way, which would have evened me back to > average and eliminated two players while doing a dent in a chip leader, I'm out > on a coin flip, but that is poker right? > I am left with wondering if I had waited to all in on the turn with a moderate > preflop raise if I would have pulled the pot, or if all in preflop was the move, > it should have scared the jebus out of him except I had moved all in short > stacked with weaker holdings, the other caller had AQ and missed and I'm pretty > sure 22 not improving would have folded to aggression on the K, tough to tell if > I played it correct preflop because of the outcome. I think a preflop raise > would have induced a bet on the flop from late position 22 in an attempt to > steal, although I would probably bet any flop that I preflop raised before he > got a chance out of principle. I guess I got lucky, and someone else got > luckier, and I played the hand correct coming over the top for more than the pot > preflop. Trying to pick this apart but I play to win, and I think this was the > winners play even though I lost what is essentially a coin flip. Don't get me > wrong I'm not mad I lost, I'm just trying to figure out if I did this right. | ||
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Re: No Limit AKs preflop, rdale, 27. Nov 2003 08:06 | ||
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| Thanks, the outcome of the hand had led me to thoughts on different ways to play it that would have been more favorable on the outcome. Sometimes I wonder if my play is overly aggressive. Still trying to walk the fine line of controlled aggression. | ||
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