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How to define a table, Robert M, 26. Nov 2003 14:37 | ||
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| Can somebody help me develop the technique of defining a table in a relatively short period of time (3 or 4 hands)? How do you decide if the table is loose, tight, agressive, passive.. I guess after a few hands you count the players in the pot after the flop? This would determine loose/tight. Then for passive/aggressive you determine the pot size/#bettors and raisers at different intervals? I guess I am looking for a rough guideline with exact figures (#bettors, what street, pot size) to help me. Now its easy to know when you are at a loose table, but I want to be able to guage it (somewhat loose, very loose) Any comments would be appreciated. TY----------------------R | ||
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Re: How to define a table, Aisthesis, 26. Nov 2003 17:04 | ||
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| Excellent question, and one that I've been thinking about lately, too--particularly since I've come to the conclusion that most tables are really "mixed." Online, you can actually get some info before you even sit down by using the statistic "% seeing flop." The higher it is the looser the table. Similarly, the bigger the average pot-size the more aggressive the table. Over and above that, what I'm currently trying (and it looks fairly promising, I think) is to get each individual roughly categorized on the loose-tight scale and the aggressive-passive scale within one orbit of the button. Then you can see who you're playing against on each hand. Admittedly, in EP it often doesn't yet give much help on the first betting/folding decision, but you can still have a rough view of the table as a whole just by counting how many players are fitting into your categories: For example, if you have 5 loose opponents and 3 tight ones, you should lean more toward whatever strategy you like in playing against loose opponents, etc. (by the way, it's the loose ones you're going to be dealing with most of the time anyway, since the tight ones are not going to be playing all that often) | ||
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Re: How to define a table, Harold Pierce, Jr., 30. Nov 2003 10:40 | ||
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| There is a method to make assessment. The potential for action (PFA) for EP, MP and LP is 3.8%, 14.9% and 24.9%, respectively. The position-weighted average is 14.6%. If a player see the flop at frequencies greater than these values, then he is moving from tight play to loose play. What I haven't quite figured out is a scale that classifies a player as loose, very loose, reckless, and maniac. If you would like a table that shows the calculation of the PFA's for Texas Hold'em, send your e-mail adress to 74563.30@compuserve.com. I also have PFA tables for seven stud and lowball. -=-MousEars MouseEars | ||
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