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 76s, Huck, 26. Nov 2003 10:22 | ||
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| I play mostly home games, and the games tend to range between 5-11 players (depending on the game). For the sake of this discussion, let's assume that we're playing Hold Em. At least one of these home games is played by somewhat skilled, somewhat tight/aggressive players with a few tight/passive and loose/passive players in the mix. When would it be correct to play 76s in this game? At least one other home game is played by nobody but loose/passive players and maniacs, so I'm the only tight player at the table (though I admit to falling into some loose play myself at times). When would it be correct to play 76s in this game? My reason for asking is that in yesterday's posts, I read several times that it's never advisable to play 76s in games with less than say, 7 players. When is 76s worth playing? Only in NLHE when you can get in cheap, hoping for the miracle flop to wipe out your opponents? And maybe in limit Hold Em games when you're in the SB or BB? Huck | ||
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| Re: 76s, noiseboy, 26. Nov 2003 11:54 | ||
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| Some examples of good situations to play the hand, 1) When there are a lot of limpers and no raise from Late Position, actually it's best to be on the button because you want to be able to anticipate that nobody will raise. 2) If there is a raise and some callers, you can play the hand from the blinds, but beware of your relative position, if the raiser is immediately to your your right and one of the EP limpers tends to limp/reraise with big hands, which some players do, you might not want to come in even for the discounted price. 3) If the game is very loose passive, then you might be able to take this hand in from Middle Position, just make sure it's really loose passive. If every hand for the last hour has had five or more players and virtually no pre-flop raising, then you should be OK to limp out of position. 4) Sometimes you should play it, even out of position, to vary your play if you are playing with player who will catch on when you only play premium and very good hands. I don't however recommend the advice of S&M that you should sometimes raise with a hand like this up front. There are better times than that to vary your play since you will often have to give up on the flop. Basically, it likes a lot of callers and little or no raising. | ||
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| Re: 76s, noiseboy, 26. Nov 2003 11:59 | ||
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| The main thing to keep in mind is that it is a VERY marginal hand in limit holdem and that most times you should lean towards passing unless the conditions are just right. | ||
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| Re: 76s, Candide, 26. Nov 2003 12:06 | ||
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| Also keep in mind you want to hit the flop HARD or get out. Two pair, straight draw (preferably open ended, or having a pair if it is inside) or best yet, straight flush draw. Playing the flush here can be tricky. | ||
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| Re: 76s, Huck, 26. Nov 2003 14:39 | ||
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| Good points, Noiseboy and Candide--it's definitely a hand that you want to limp in with, play with multiple players, one that you need to strike big with to continue playing, and one that is worth betting only once in awhile to mix things up. I tend to agree with Candide's comment about the 76s being tricky to play when a flush is possible (depending on the circumstances, of course). I'm beginning to wonder how valuable the 76s and similar low suited connectors are at all. A 7-high flush is very vulnerable, and you're more likely to make the ignorant straight than the nuts, and a single pair (say, pairing a 7 on the board) is usually worthless, so you're really looking to hit 2-pair or better. Does that seem right? Following this line of thought, playing 76o is nearly as good as 76s. Maybe hands like this are best to play only in No Limit play, where you can really strike it big when they hit, and even still only when played cautiously and when mixing things up. | ||
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