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 Today's O8 hand- Playing From the blinds, lunchmeat, 23. Nov 2003 11:05 | ||
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| For anybody following my O8 posts, I've decided to value raise pre-flop a lot less. With hands like AAQs3s, I probably do have the best hand before the flop (I'm playing .50/$1 at Party afterall), but since I'm only drawing to the nuts I'll fold without hesitation non-nut draws that the guys holding A4xx, and 24xx will call "in turn" with. So it doesn't seem worth it to put more money in the pot when I'm probably going to fold anyway. For the time being I'm not raising with anything less than a suited A2xx... but because of my opposition's love affair with the "call in turn" button, I'm jacking it up from any position. On to today's hand... I played in my first aggressive game recently, and was faced with the dilemma of what to play from the big blind when the pot is raised. (I lied, there are two hands) Hand 1) Two EP callers, MP raises, 2 LP calls. I call from big blind with Ks, Kc, Jh, 8h. Flop: Kd, 6d, 6c By the end no low was possible and I won a huge pot from two non-nut flushes. But was this a good call before the flop? Hand 2) Raised UTG, 3 callers, I fold Ad, 9s, 8s, 3s. My reasoning was that, while my opponents are loose, even they probably wouldn't raise with anything worse than A3xx. So even if I do flop a 2, there's no guarantee I'm going to win all of the low. The flop came A99, which would have ended up getting me the whole pot had I played, so I think this hand stuck in my head more than it probably should have. So my big blind standards are looser than usual for high hands because the pot's bigger (I'd usually fold KKxx for a bet), but tighter for low hands since I'm likely facing the same hand or better. Is this a good strategy? | ||
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| Re: Today's O8 hand- Playing From the blinds, Mark Gregorich, 24. Nov 2003 00:22 | ||
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| > > Hand 1) Two EP callers, MP raises, 2 LP calls. I call from big blind with Ks, > Kc, Jh, 8h. > Flop: Kd, 6d, 6c > By the end no low was possible and I won a huge pot from two non-nut flushes. > But was this a good call before the flop? Considering that your game included at least two players who would pay off with bad flushes, I think your call is just fine (your hand has better implied odds against weak opposition, as you stand to win more when you make the best hand). Against stiff opposition (which I doubt you'll ever encounter at this limit), folding is a more reasonable option. > > Hand 2) Raised UTG, 3 callers, I fold Ad, 9s, 8s, 3s. > My reasoning was that, while my opponents are loose, even they probably > wouldn't raise with anything worse than A3xx. So even if I do flop a 2, there's > no guarantee I'm going to win all of the low. > The flop came A99, which would have ended up getting me the whole pot had I > played, so I think this hand stuck in my head more than it probably should > have. > I defend with this hand. Some players fold it. That's one of the cool things about O/8 - there's plenty of disagreement over correct strategy. As you saw, there are other ways for your hand to win besides just the A3 (and I agree with you that the A3 by itself is pretty marginal). > So my big blind standards are looser than usual for high hands because the > pot's bigger (I'd usually fold KKxx for a bet), but tighter for low hands since > I'm likely facing the same hand or better. Is this a good strategy? Yes and no, IMO. On the one hand, you may scoop some big hands occasionally with KKxx types of hands. However, you are more likely to get a piece of the pot with a low hand. Yes, sometimes you'll be quartered, but frequently you'll be the only player with the low (lots of opponents will raise with AAxx, in which case you'd like to play your low cards). Plus, you do have 2 other cards, which produce other combinations which can occasionally win. Mark | ||
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