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NEED YOUR OPINIONS, JohnFR, 22. Nov 2003 18:30
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Tonight the wierdest thing happened during a tourney on UB.
I was sitting at my first table just playing as normal then all of a sudden one of the players was acting really strange, he kept saying things, then saying he didn't say them etc. Then another player did it one time. I was telling them to stop it because one of them said something like I have 72 offsuit right now, then he said no I don't I have 5/10 and he actually did have 5/10. I didn't understand what was going on I told him to not tell his hand in chat. Then about a minute later I was typing in some random message when all of a sudden the chat window pops up with something that I didn't type in but from my username. It said
JohnFR: I have AK
I never typed in the words I have AK, not only that I didn't have AK, had like 92 and folded it, then a few hands later it said.
JohnFR: I have KK
Also didn't have KK had like 74 or something. Nobody in the chat believed me that I actually wasn't saying those words, but I truly wasn't typing them in, it just kept popping up saying things like that, I then realized what the first 2 people were complaining about.
Has anybody ever ran into this before, with somebody forcing messages that weren't actually being typed by the player? Should I be worried about it? I just don't understand what the hell was going on, I quickly went all-in and bounced myself out of the tourney so I could e-mail UB, and figure out what the hell was going on.

Sorry for the rambling, thanks to all replies, hope somebody might know what is going on,

Cheers
John
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Re: NEED YOUR OPINIONS, PairTheBoard, 22. Nov 2003 21:38
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Sounds worrisome if true. It would seem to imply a breach in security. Even if it's only the chat interface, any breach in the site's security would be of serious concern.UB should get on that email asap, imo.
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Re: NEED YOUR OPINIONS, oboy, 23. Nov 2003 08:12
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Very Worrisome, sounds like a site to avoid. Please let us know there response.
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Re: NEED YOUR OPINIONS, JohnFR, 23. Nov 2003 08:23
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Here is the entire e-mail conversation in it's entirety so far:
Remember the lower ones are the earliest and the ones towards the top are the most recent.

I don't remember the exact table number, but you guys should be able to figure
it out since it was table 21 in the 7PM eastern $3 rebuy satellite. It was
within the first hour before the rebuy, and it happened a few times in the
first hour. The other players affected by this hack were betorfoldem and
another player that I don't remember. Think his the first four letters of his
name were Mach something or other. Basically I believe this is a breach in
security on your site, I believe somebody has hacked your chat interface, and
if they can hack that I am not sure what else they can hack. I am e-mailing
this to you so you can hopefully figure it out before players accounts are
compromised. This should be passed along to the people that coded the
security software and the chat interface security. If they want to talk to me
have them send an e-mail and we can set something up to talk over instant
messaging or something. If this truly is a hack, and I see it occuring much
more often I will be forced to alert everybody I know about this site, and
pull my money out.
Sorry,
John

Quoting memberservices <memberservices@ultimatebet.com>;:

> Hello,
>
> Please send us the table and hand numbers or the tournament name and the
> exact eastern time when all this happened and we will look into this matter
> and provide you with further assistance. Please add the others username as
> well if you can remember it.
>
> Stephen
> Customer Service Department
>
>
> ************PLEASE ATTACH THIS MESSAGE TO YOUR REPLY************
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <johriley@nmsu.edu>;
> To: <memberservices@ultimatebet.com>;
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Rebuy Entry Satellite Registration
>
>
> > Hello,
> > I had a major problem in this tournament, I was at table-21 and 2
> different
> > times the chat window said I said something when I didn't type it in.
> Once it
> > said JohnFR: I have AK, but I NEVER typed in the words I have AK(btw I
> had
> > like 92 when it said that) and then another time it said JohnFR: I have
> KK(had
> > like 74 or something like that actually), but neither time did I actually
> type
> > in the words that showed up. One other player was having the same
> problem,
> > dunno what was going on, but it really needs to be taken care of, because
> I am
> > not happy with things like this happening, I hope my account is still in
> tact
> > later on. The security needs to be buffed up or something, because it
> doesn't
> > seem to be working if people are able to type messages out and it makes
> it
> > look like you said it, especially in a tournament.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> > Quoting memberservices@ultimatebet.com:
> >
> > > Dear JohnFR,
> > >
> > > Thank you for registering for the UltimateBet tournament. A seat has
> been
> > > reserved for you during Rebuy Entry Satellite that begins on Saturday
> > > November 22nd, 2003 at 07:00:00 PM (Eastern) and the $3.00
> non-refundable fee
> > > has been deducted from your real money account. Please log on to
> UltimateBet
> > > and be ready to play 10 minutes prior to the start of the tournament.
> > > Tournaments begin at the posted start time so please be prompt. Players
> may
> > > be unable to join a table once play begins.
> > >
> > > When you log into the site, look in the lower right side of the main
> screen
> > > of our game to see current Eastern time for reference.
> > >
> > > Please let us know if you have any questions.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Member Services
> > > memberservices@ultimatebet.com
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Re: NEED YOUR OPINIONS, MozMan, 23. Nov 2003 08:22
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I play UB 20 hours a week or more, and have never seen this. But if I ever do, it would scare the hell out of me.

It sounds like it could be one of two things:

1- Someone has figured out how to hack-in live to the chat window and post messages "from" any player at the table. A prank, but the sign of a security flaw.

2- Someone has figured out how to send a bug to UBs software that automagically sends random messages to chat windows on random tables "from" players at those tables. Even less of a threat, but still the sign of a security flaw.

Let us know how they respond, I would be very interested.

-Moz

"Looks like we caught us another customer, Eddie."
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Re: NEED YOUR OPINIONS, JohnFR, 23. Nov 2003 08:31
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I would say I spend a bit more than 20 hours a week on UB, and I may have seen this one other time I just didn't realize I saw it. One day AnnieDuke logged on and I went to her table to watch of course. When all of a sudden I see:
PhilHellmuth: Hey Annie, you there? (Annie was sitting out)
I thought this was a bit wierd because I have UltimateBuddy and Phil is on it and he NEVER LOGGED ON and wasn't logged on when this was happening. Somebody said something to Phil, and another player said don't worry that is not him bro. I looked at the spacing and spelling and this Phil's spelling and everything was identical to the true player, but for some reason one of the players realized it actually wasn't him.
I have no idea if this is the same thing, because I can't verify it like I can when it happened to me. Everybody at the table was yelling at the 2 of us that this kept happening to, I hated it I am a very honest player and a very friendly one to boot so I hate my reputation being compromised like that. Anyways just rambling now.

Cheers,
John
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Re: NEED YOUR OPINIONS, Kurab, 24. Nov 2003 08:03
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This is scary - I play also quite a bit on UB but have never seen this - but it concens me greatly - Let us know what happens
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UPDATE, JohnFR, 24. Nov 2003 09:37
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So here is their first real answer to my question, and it sounds like a load of crap if you ask me take it as you will:


Hello,

Our system sends messages with your name as a way to narrate the game. It is not another player using your name. This is something we have incorporated recently. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you.

If you have any further questions please let us know

Thank you,
Ann
Customer Service Department

Apparently they randomly send messages to narrate the game, even though those messages are completely untrue and if they were true would constitute illegal tournament play if I was to type the same exact messages. Take this as you will, I personally don't believe it myself, I want to talk to a damn programmer so I can talk to him personally, I have offered to talk to them on Instant Messaging or over the phone if they prefer, but instead they give me this line of crap.


Cheers,
John
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Re: UPDATE, Boftx, 24. Nov 2003 10:09
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I would immediately try to determine if this is a genuine email from UB or if it is a forgery. If it is a forgery, then UB, or you, have a serious security leak.

I find it *extremely* difficult to believe that UB would give this as an explanation.

If it is genuine, then I suggest that it is time for all of us to consider pulling our money and never playing there again for 1 of 2 reasons.

1) If what the message says is true, then I feel this is a very bad *feature* for them to add to game for fairly obvious reasons.

2) If the message is just a BS answer to cover up a security breach, then I don't want to play on a site whose integrity is suspect.

Quite simply, we as poker players don't need UB to play on as much as they need us to pay the rake.

Jim
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Re: UPDATE, oboy, 24. Nov 2003 18:16
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I can't believe they are not all over this. That's the worst answer I ever heard. No more UB for me.
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Re: UPDATE, SpaceAce, 25. Nov 2003 03:46
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Wow. Would you mind posting the email along with the headers? If that really came from UltimateBet you had better get all your money out of there as fast as you can.

SpaceAce
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Re: UPDATE, tommyhawk, 25. Nov 2003 05:10
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I just pulled out. I normally are not that way and all those stories bla...bla.

But this is not normal and the way they replied scares me.

Tommyhawk.
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Re: UPDATE, JohnFR, 25. Nov 2003 07:14
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Here is the e-mail in it's entirety from the very beginning(I actually replied to the e-mail confirmation as to make sure I have the right address). Remember the last reply is at the top and the first thing is at the bottom so read from bottom up....

I would also like to point out that since my latest e-mail I haven't gotten a response and I e-mailed them somewhat early yesterday.

By the way this e-mail is sorta hard to read, but once you start it really isn't that bad, I just read it and it was painful for a minute, but after you get in the groove it isn't too hard to read.

Hello,

It was a 7PM eastern tourney on November 22nd, at table 21($3 rebuy entry
satellite), the time the problem occured was closer to 8PM eastern as the
rebuy period was almost over.

Thanks,
John


Quoting memberservices <memberservices@ultimatebet.com>;:

> Hello,
>
> We are unable to find this chat with information you provide. Please check if
> this date and time (around 7pm eastern on November 22nd, table 21) is correct
> in order to review this chat and assist you better on this matter.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Maria
> Customer Service Department
>
>
>
> ************PLEASE ATTACH THIS MESSAGE TO YOUR REPLY************
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <johriley@nmsu.edu>;
> To: "memberservices" <memberservices@ultimatebet.com>;
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 10:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Rebuy Entry Satellite Registration
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > So you are telling me that you guys are sending messages as my name saying
>
> > things like "I have AK" in the middle of a hand? Not only would this be
> > illegal if I said it, it is wrong to do something like this. If I was the
>
> > only one that could see it that would be ok but the whole table can see me
>
> > saying "I have AK" or "I have KK" which wasn't the truth, and is illegal.
> Why
> > would you guys be sending these kind of messages?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> > Quoting memberservices <memberservices@ultimatebet.com>;:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Our system sends messages with your name as a way to narrate the game.
> It is
> > > not another player using your name. This is something we have
> incorporated
> > > recently. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
> > >
> > > If you have any further questions please let us know
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Ann
> > > Customer Service Department
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ************PLEASE ATTACH THIS MESSAGE TO YOUR REPLY************
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <johriley@nmsu.edu>;
> > > To: "Member Services" <memberservices@ultimatebet.com>;
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 1:47 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Rebuy Entry Satellite Registration
> > >
> > >
> > > > Those are only Sit N Go's those aren't multi-table tournaments.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > Quoting Member Services <memberservices@ultimatebet.com>;:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > These are the tournaments I found on your JohnFR's account:
> > > > >
> > > > > Stakes Game Type Money Type Seats First Hand ID Hands Played
> Time
> > > In
> > > > > Time Out
> > > > > No Limit HoldEm Tournament 10 668914-1 96 12:47:57 PM EST
> > > 11/23/2003
> > > > > 01:33:58 PM EST 11/23/2003
> > > > > No Limit HoldEm Tournament 10 668006-1 199 11:14:01 AM EST
> > > 11/23/2003
> > > > > 12:42:16 PM EST 11/23/2003
> > > > > No Limit HoldEm Tournament 10 667812-1 54 01:47:37 AM EST
> > > 11/23/2003
> > > > > 02:18:51 AM EST 11/23/2003
> > > > > No Limit HoldEm Tournament 10 667626-1 76 12:54:43 AM EST
> > > 11/23/2003
> > > > > 01:42:35 AM EST 11/23/2003
> > > > > No Limit HoldEm Tournament 10 666926-1 85 11:09:49 PM EST
> > > 11/22/2003
> > > > > 12:16:04 AM EST 11/23/2003
> > > > > No Limit HoldEm Tournament 10 666792-1 42 10:29:44 PM EST
> > > 11/22/2003
> > > > > 10:59:31 PM EST 11/22/2003
> > > > > No Limit HoldEm Tournament 10 0 06:52:54 PM EST 11/22/2003
> > > 07:01:32 PM
> > > > > EST 11/22/2003
> > > > > No Limit HoldEm Tournament 10 666064-1 133 05:33:00 PM EST
> > > 11/22/2003
> > > > > 06:48:58 PM EST 11/22/2003
> > > > > No Limit HoldEm Tournament 10 665688-1 118 03:45:30 PM EST
> > > 11/22/2003
> > > > > 04:54:14 PM EST 11/22/2003
> > > > > No Limit HoldEm Tournament 10 665615-1 50 03:08:31 PM EST
> > > 11/22/2003
> > > > > 03:44:30 PM EST 11/22/2003
> > > > > No Limit HoldEm Tournament 10 664254-1 94 01:31:29 PM EST
> > > 11/22/2003
> > > > > 02:24:16 PM EST 11/22/2003
> > > > > No Limit HoldEm Tournament 10 665232-1 57 12:41:09 PM EST
> > > 11/22/2003
> > > > > 01:27:23 PM EST 11/22/2003
> > > > > No Limit HoldEm Tournament 10 663785-1 96 01:01:42 AM EST
> > > 11/22/2003
> > > > > 01:57:03 AM EST 11/22/2003
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please let us know.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > >
> > > > > Maria
> > > > > Customer Service Department
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ************PLEASE ATTACH THIS MESSAGE TO YOUR REPLY************
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <johriley@nmsu.edu>;
> > > > > To: "Member Services" <memberservices@ultimatebet.com>;
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 12:38 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Rebuy Entry Satellite Registration
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am just stating that I was in a tournament, a 3 dollar rebuy
> > > sattelite,
> > > > > that
> > > > > > started at 7PM eastern. This tournament was for an aruba chip, it
> was
> > > at
> > > > > 7PM
> > > > > > eastern, and it was a 3 dollar rebuy sattelite. I was at table 21.
>
> > > This
> > > > >
> > > > > > should clarify what table I was at. It was within the first hour,
> it
> > > has
> > > > >
> > > > > > nothing to do with hand numbers at all. The hand numbers are
> > > irregardless,
> > > > >
> > > > > > just look at the chat messages that I didn't type in that came from
> my
> > > name
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the 7PM eastern rebuy tournament sattelite, again it happened at
> table
> > > 21,
> > > > >
> > > > > > within the first hour(BEFORE the rebuy period was over) I was at
> table
> > > 21,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > there were messages showing up in the chat window that I didn't
> type,
> > > but
> > > > > were
> > > > > > coming from MY name.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS. Since you guys have asked 2 times now, I will repeat 7PM
> eastern
> > > 3
> > > > > dollar
> > > > > > rebuy sattelite, multi table tournament, table 21.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quoting Member Services <memberservices@ultimatebet.com>;:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In order to research this kind of problems we need hand and
> table
> > > numbers
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the game. If you do not remember them we may use time and date
> of
> > > the
> > > > > game,
> > > > > > > but at this time (around 7pm eastern on November 22nd) I found
> no
> > > table
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > hand number.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also remember that when you are on a tournament our system
> shows
> > > your
> > > > > hand on
> > > > > > > the chat at the end of each hand.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maria
> > > > > > > Customer Service Department
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ************PLEASE ATTACH THIS MESSAGE TO YOUR
> REPLY************
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: <johriley@nmsu.edu>;
> > > > > > > To: "memberservices" <memberservices@ultimatebet.com>;
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:22 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Rebuy Entry Satellite Registration
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't remember the exact table number, but you guys should
> be
> > > able
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > figure
> > > > > > > > it out since it was table 21 in the 7PM eastern $3 rebuy
> satellite.
> > > It
> > > > > was
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > within the first hour before the rebuy, and it happened a few
> times
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > first hour. The other players affected by this hack were
> > > betorfoldem
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > another player that I don't remember. Think his the first
> four
> > > letters
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > name were Mach something or other. Basically I believe this is
> a
> > > > > breach in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > security on your site, I believe somebody has hacked your
> chat
> > > > > interface,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > if they can hack that I am not sure what else they can hack.
> I
> > > am
> > > > > > > e-mailing
> > > > > > > > this to you so you can hopefully figure it out before players
> > > accounts
> > > > > are
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > compromised. This should be passed along to the people that
> coded
> > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > security software and the chat interface security. If they
> want
> > > to
> > > > > talk to
> > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > have them send an e-mail and we can set something up to talk
> over
> > > > > instant
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > messaging or something. If this truly is a hack, and I see
> it
> > > > > occuring
> > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > more often I will be forced to alert everybody I know about
> this
> > > site,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > pull my money out.
> > > > > > > > Sorry,
> > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Quoting memberservices <memberservices@ultimatebet.com>;:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please send us the table and hand numbers or the tournament
> > > name
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > exact eastern time when all this happened and we will look
> into
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > matter
> > > > > > > > > and provide you with further assistance. Please add the
> others
> > > > > username
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > well if you can remember it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Stephen
> > > > > > > > > Customer Service Department
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ************PLEASE ATTACH THIS MESSAGE TO YOUR
> > > REPLY************
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: <johriley@nmsu.edu>;
> > > > > > > > > To: <memberservices@ultimatebet.com>;
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:03 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Rebuy Entry Satellite Registration
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > I had a major problem in this tournament, I was at table-21
> and
> > > 2
> > > > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > > > times the chat window said I said something when I didn't
> type
> > > it
> > > > > in.
> > > > > > > > > Once it
> > > > > > > > > > said JohnFR: I have AK, but I NEVER typed in the words I
> have
> > > > > AK(btw
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > > like 92 when it said that) and then another time it said
> > > JohnFR:
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > KK(had
> > > > > > > > > > like 74 or something like that actually), but neither time
> did
> > > I
> > > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > > type
> > > > > > > > > > in the words that showed up. One other player was having
> the
> > > > > same
> > > > > > > > > problem,
> > > > > > > > > > dunno what was going on, but it really needs to be taken
> care
> > > of,
> > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > > not happy with things like this happening, I hope my
> account
> > > is
> > > > > still
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > tact
> > > > > > > > > > later on. The security needs to be buffed up or
> something,
> > > > > because
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > > > > seem to be working if people are able to type messages out
> and
> > > it
> > > > > > > makes
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > look like you said it, especially in a tournament.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Quoting memberservices@ultimatebet.com:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Dear JohnFR,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for registering for the UltimateBet tournament.
>
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Re: NEED YOUR OPINIONS, noiseboy, 25. Nov 2003 10:04
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These customer service people are not equipped to deal with your situation, I would demand to talk to a programmer about what happened. This is extremely serious and despite all of my good experiences with UB, if the chat is hacked into, who knows what else?
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Re: NEED YOUR OPINIONS, stock53, 1. Dec 2003 10:43
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Any news on this?? Either JohnFR is making this up or UB has serious problems. Would it be possible for founders of this forum to request an official response from UB?

stock53
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Re: NEED YOUR OPINIONS, JohnFR, 2. Dec 2003 11:56
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When I get home I will post the full e-mail message I have decided to give up on it, as the circumstances are very strange(you will see from the e-mail log that I will post), I still haven't recieved reimbursment but I am supposed to soon,
Have to go for now though,
John
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Re: NEED YOUR OPINIONS, Boftx, 2. Dec 2003 13:43
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Please include full routing headers from the UB mails if possible.
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Re: NEED YOUR OPINIONS, SpaceAce, 2. Dec 2003 06:17
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It's not just the actual breach of security; if that reply he got is for real, UltimateBet is NOT a safe place to have your money.

SpaceAce
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Re: NEED YOUR OPINIONS, Alan Merriam, 2. Jan 2004 16:39
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Was there ever a resolution to this UB problem?
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Similar problems on pokerpages, osucbj04, 2. Jan 2004 17:22
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I like to play in the free multitable poker tournaments while watching tv, and I have had a few instances where random words would appear in the chat box as if I said them. By random, I mean words I don't even remember that had nothing to do with anything. It would seriouslly be words like "original" or "closet". I don't have any money on there or anything, so I don't really care if people hack into their server and cheat- I just play there for fun if I feel a slump buliding on my real money account. I just though I would share this.
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