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 UPF Tourney Final Hand, mkpoker, 22. Nov 2003 14:55 | ||
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| No one is more surprised than I, but somehow I managed to come out on top of the UPF NL tourney today. Thanks to Beigs (again) for organizing. I had a big lead once we got heads up (about 3:1) and kept catching good cards and keeping the pressure up. The final hand was this: I'm ahead about T12000 to T2500. From the BB, I'm dealt A2o. Blinds are 200/400. TommyHawk raises to 800. I figure I've got the better hand but elect to smooth call and see a flop (a mistake, perhaps?) The flop comes 6d4d9s. I check, planning to check raise (in retrospect, I probably should have bet, seeing that flush draw). Tommy checks back. Turn comes Ad, giving me top pair, but completing the flush draw. I figure I'm ahead for SURE, unless Tommy just pulled a flush. I have the 2d, but I can't imagine that's worth anything. I figure Tommy has high cards, but given the stack status, I'm willing to take a gamble against the flush possibility. I push all in and he calls. Tommy shows KdQc....he's on the nut flush draw. Turn is Tc and my pair of aces carries the day. What do you think of my play here? All comments welcome. And thanks to everyone who participated today...especially beigs for organizing. In fairness (and hoping to start a tradition), I'll volunteer to organize the next one. --matt | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney Final Hand, beigs, 22. Nov 2003 15:03 | ||
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| I'm all for you organizing the next one! You might get a crowd this time! Still can't explain the low turnout. Are weekends really that troublesome? beigs | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney Final Hand, BigRed1, 22. Nov 2003 15:08 | ||
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| Might have been the problem with getting in the tourney, I have seen a few people state they could not register. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney Final Hand, Kymmer, 23. Nov 2003 11:32 | ||
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| I intended to give it a shot - however my bank roll was really tight (and now down to $0! - whine...) and I passed on it. Congratulations to MK on the win. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney Final Hand, Aisthesis, 23. Nov 2003 11:59 | ||
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| Thanksgiving coming up may have had something to do with it. I really intended to play but by the time I got finished with a bunch of errands and stuff, it was already too late. Looks like it was a lot of fun anyway, and sorry I missed it. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney Final Hand, ReMMy, 23. Nov 2003 15:01 | ||
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| Weekends are tough for me, I will play without a doubt during the week... | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney Final Hand, McMonkey, 24. Nov 2003 08:27 | ||
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| Well I'll throw in my $0.02. First, congrats to Matt, though I've seen you play and can't say I'm too surprised. A little luck and a good helping of skill can go a long way. Second, I'm sorry I missed it. I was playing the role of Jonathan Brewster in a local production of Arsenic and Old Lace and it was the last night of performance, couldn't really miss that. I will be at the next one if I can, however. Finally, about the turnout: I think the impending holiday has something to do with it; there are a couple of annual events I attended this weekend and due to the timing with Thanksgiving there were much smaller turnouts than usual. That's not to say a smaller buy-in wouldn't attract more people also. You guys need to post more of your dumb moves to balance out your pristine image. So another one next week? Chris | ||
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| Suggestion for next tourney, asnyder, 22. Nov 2003 15:07 | ||
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| Based on the downward trend in participation over the last 3 tourneys (20+, 18, & 15 respectively) - maybe a lower buy-in would generate more interest. I see a lot of posts "sign me up" & "I want in" but then the turnout is weak. My guess is that the majority of the "gang" would like to play but would rather hang on to their $22. Just an observation. Again, Beigs, Kudos for taking the time to put UPF#3 together. | ||
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| Re: Suggestion for next tourney, Bungus, 22. Nov 2003 22:47 | ||
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| Damn, if I'd check the forum more often, I'd had played. I was playing tourney's all night anyway. And if the buy in was really only 22$, what the hell, It'd be fun to see some of you guys in action (the UPF tourney's just for bragging rights, anyway, I'd imagine). Maybe if news of the tourney was posted more in advance, and you spammed about it all over the forum, like that "Ace" did about Vorhaus's new book and crap. On second thought, scratch that, that guy was annoying. I'd be interested to know who played in it , though | ||
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| Re: Suggestion for next tourney, MozMan, 23. Nov 2003 08:18 | ||
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| Here's my take on it: 1- I like the $20 +2 buyin, but would be happy to play if it were lower. 2- I have noticed that there is a lot of talk during the tourneys about how tight the game is. I think a lot of players try to kick it up a notch when playing the UPF tourney. I know I do, then I end up playing very badly because I'm second guessing myself and I don't want to "look bad" in front of you guys (ironic, isn't it?). I suspect a lot of players are simply afraid of the UPF games. -Moz "Looks like we caught us another customer, Eddie." | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney Final hand (wahoo!!), 4 POKER, 22. Nov 2003 17:01 | ||
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| "Way to go" Matt and congratulations!! I hope everyone had fun :) 4P- | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney Final Hand, Aisthesis, 23. Nov 2003 12:14 | ||
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| Congratulations! comments below on 22. Nov 2003 14:55 mkpoker wrote: > No one is more surprised than I, but somehow I managed to come out on top of the > UPF NL tourney today. Thanks to Beigs (again) for organizing. > > I had a big lead once we got heads up (about 3:1) and kept catching good cards > and keeping the pressure up. > > The final hand was this: I'm ahead about T12000 to T2500. From the BB, I'm > dealt A2o. Blinds are 200/400. > > TommyHawk raises to 800. I figure I've got the better hand but elect to smooth > call and see a flop (a mistake, perhaps?) I think calling is doable with the A here. > > The flop comes 6d4d9s. I check, planning to check raise (in retrospect, I > probably should have bet, seeing that flush draw). Tommy checks back. > My heads-up play is no doubt much too primitive, but I would have viewed a check-raise as a huge mistake here. My basic motto in heads-up is that any pair on the flop is worth a pot-size bet, and tommy could well have picked up the 9 (K9 would have been quite raisable from his position, I think). I probably would have checked, too, but would have thrown it away if he had bet back at me very hard. As alternative to the check, the A might also have been bettable depending on the flow of the heads-up. But I REALLY don't see you having enough hand for a checkraise. Then again, since you won the tourney, you probably had some subtlety in mind there that I'm missing completely. > Turn comes Ad, giving me top pair, but completing the flush draw. I figure I'm > ahead for SURE, unless Tommy just pulled a flush. I have the 2d, but I can't > imagine that's worth anything. I figure Tommy has high cards, but given the > stack status, I'm willing to take a gamble against the flush possibility. I > push all in and he calls. > > Tommy shows KdQc....he's on the nut flush draw. Turn is Tc and my pair of aces > carries the day. > > What do you think of my play here? All comments welcome. And thanks to > everyone who participated today...especially beigs for organizing. > > In fairness (and hoping to start a tradition), I'll volunteer to organize the > next one. > > --matt | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney Final Hand, Mark Barnett II, 24. Nov 2003 09:43 | ||
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| played my last hand about as badly as possible *always good thing to go all in with junk* like the suggestion of lowering the buyin (if the main objective is to learn/bragging rights why do we want to pay more? *which ties in nicely with point 2*) if the buy in is lower we can do it more frequently *although clueless on how much organizing is involved* say a 5+.5 buy in *if they will let us* we could do it weekly or bi-weekly- or monthly i think if it were a planned/scheduled thing *that got the occasional announcement* the turnout would be better Rule #1 of Poker Circumstances alter cases Rule #2 NEVER forget rule #1 | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney Suggestions, beigs, 24. Nov 2003 15:13 | ||
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| While I would be in favor of a lower buy in (10+1 would be ideal) I think the decision was originally made because there was the desire to have a prize pool worth the time. That being said, having only fifteen players doesn't pad the prize pool any so we may as well have a smaller buy in and get more players. The organizing of the tournament is not difficult. It's just making sure names of players get passed on to Caitlyn at UB and that they are coded. Of course, there are some snafu's along the way. (sorry Go Bears & BigRed1). After the first tournament we talked about making it a monthly thing. This provided enough frequency to benefit everyone's learning curve while keeping it infrequent enough to make it a special event worth attending. This had happened once a month until recently which is why I took the reins and said I'd organize. That being said, I personally don't think we should do one in a month as it would be the middle of the holidays. After New Year's though, I shall regain my crown!!! Just my .02. beigs on 24. Nov 2003 09:43 Mark Barnett II wrote: > played my last hand about as badly as possible *always good thing to go all in with > junk* > > like the suggestion of lowering the buyin (if the main objective is to > learn/bragging rights why do we want to pay more? *which ties in nicely with point > 2*) > > if the buy in is lower we can do it more frequently *although clueless on how much > organizing is involved* > > say a 5+.5 buy in *if they will let us* we could do it weekly or bi-weekly- or > monthly > > i think if it were a planned/scheduled thing *that got the occasional announcement* > the turnout would be better > > Rule #1 of Poker > Circumstances alter cases > Rule #2 NEVER forget rule #1 | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney Suggestions, Jordan, 25. Nov 2003 10:26 | ||
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| does it have to be on Ultimate Bet? I don't know if I want to d/l another program, hehe. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney Final Hand, LJH, 30. Nov 2003 14:32 | ||
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| MK POKER, TOO MUCH SLOW PLAYING AND BEING CUTSIE. LJH | ||
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