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 WPC Propping Good deal?, Bill Bonner, 19. Nov 2003 12:34 | ||
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| I just got an email wanting me to help prop games at worldpokercentral.com. Ive never done this before so is propping a good idea or no? Bill Bonner | ||
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| Re: WPC Propping Good deal?, Parker, 19. Nov 2003 12:48 | ||
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| Propping is a good way for players to make something back. I looked it over and I think I'm going to join. | ||
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| Re: WPC Propping Good deal?, lunchmeat, 19. Nov 2003 13:56 | ||
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| The consensuis over at 2+2 is that this guy is just spamming and that there are better prop offers available even if he isn't. | ||
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| Re: WPC Propping Good deal?, ADAM THE EXPERT, 20. Nov 2003 09:55 | ||
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| AH, YES, PROPPING!!! LUCKY FOR YOU, A QUALIFIED EXPERT, HAS CHOSEN TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. ALMOST ALL OF THE PEOPLE I KNOW, WHO HAVE MADE A LIVING FOR MANY YEARS IN POKER, HAVE AT SOME TIME OR ANOTHER, BEEN PROPS. (I HATE TO BUST THE BUBBLES ON ALL MY FANS, BUT THAT INCLUDES YOUR TRUELY) NOTHING AT ALL WRONG WITH BEING A "PROP" IN FACT, IN CAN BE A TREMENDOUS "BOOST" TO A PLAYER WHO MIGHT ONLY BE FAIRLY GOOD, AND LACKING IN CONFIDENCE. SO NICE TO KNOW, THAT NO MATTER IF YOU WIN, LOSE, OR BREAK EVEN, THAT THE SALERY JUST KEEPS ON A 'ROLLIN' !! THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES TO CONSIDER, WHEN TRYING TO DETERMINE WHETHER THIS WILL BE A PROFITABLE SITUATION FOR YOU ARE: HOW WELL DOES YOUR EMPLOYER TREAT YOU? DO THEY MAKE YOU LEAVE, THE INSTANT A "LIVE ONE" WANTS TO PLAY, EVEN IF YOU'VE TAKEN YOUR BIG BLIND, AND NOW HAVE LATE POSITION? HOW MUCH OF THE DAY IS SPENT PLAYING, AND HOW MUCH SITTING? DO THEY ACTUALLY PAY AN HOURLY SALERY, OR JUST SO MUCH, PER HAND (OR "GAME" AS THE SITES SO INCORRECTLY SAY) I REALLY, REALLY HATE IT, WHEN A SITE REFERS TO A "HAND" AS A" GAME" ALSO, THE RATIO OF "LIMITS RESONSIBLE TO PLAY" VRS "SALERY PAID" IS VERY IMPORTANT. LAST TIME ADAM THE EXPERT PROPPED, BACK IN 1992 (WORKED WITH BARBERA ENRIGHT AT THE TIME) THE PAY WAS: 120 DOLLARS PER EIGHT HOUR DAY, PLAY UP TO 6-12. BUT, THE GAMES WERE ALL "FULL KILL" (LIMIT INCREASES FOR ONE HAND, UPON CERTAIN CONDITIONS) THIS WAS LESS THAN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. NOWADAYS, THE PAY FOR 6-12 AND DOWN, IS AROUND $18 AN HOUR, AND I HAVE FRIENDS DOING THIS. OF COURSE, ONLINE, WE DON'T HAVE 6-12, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT ANYTHING LESS THAN 16 AND HOUR, FOR 5-10 AND BELOW, WOULD NOT BE SUFFICIENT. OF COURSE, I KNOW THAT THE SITES, DO NOT PAY BY THE HOUR, RATHER BY THE HAND, SO YOU WILL NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH YOU WOULD AVERAGE PER HOUR, BASED ON GAME SPEED. THE NEXT CONSIDERATON, IS, "IS MY BANKROLL SAFE" IS THIS A SITE LIKELY TO GO "BELLY UP" AS FAR AS ADAM THE EXPERT IS CONCERNED, ANY BUT THE "BIG FIVE" SITES, IS VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY LIKELY, TO GO THE WAY OF THE DODO, AND YOU DON'T WANT YOUR MONEY DISSAPEARING ALONG WITH IT. SO, IF YOU DO ACCEPT THIS JOB, DON'T LEAVE MORE IN YOUR ACCOUNT, THEN IS NECESSARY. MAYBE $400 MAXIMUM., FOR PROPPING SMALL GAMES. YOU CAN ALWAYS ADD MORE. AND, IF THE SITE INSISTS ON MAINTAINING SOME MULTI-THOUSAND BALANCE, AS A CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT, THEN I WOULD RUN AWAY AS FAST AS I COULD. THERE ARE TOTALLY BOGUS SITES OUT THERE, JUST WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO COME ALONG, DEPOSITE A LOT OF MONEY, AND THEN, WHEN THEY GET ENOUGH, VANISH. ADAM THE EXPERT'S BROTHER, WON $4000 ON SOME BOGUS AUSTRALIAN SITE, FOUR MONTHS AGO, AND HAS YET TO COLLECT HIS MONEY. SO, BE VERY VERY CAREFUL. THE MAJOR, ESTABLISHED SITES, OFFER PLENTY OF ACTION EXCITEMENT, AND VARIETY, SO WHY EVEN BOTHER? WITH AN UPSTART SITE | ||
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| Re: WPC Propping Good deal?, gary ford, 20. Nov 2003 11:31 | ||
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| Thank you, Mr/ EXPERT--What are the top 5 sites , in your expert opinion? | ||
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| Re: WPC Propping Good deal?, Barry T, 21. Nov 2003 00:54 | ||
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| Hi. I certainly cannot speak for ADAM, but according to www.pokerpulse.com, the current top 5 sites are Party Poker, PokerStars, Ultimate Bet, Paradise Poker and Ladbrokes (I am pretty sure Americans are barred from Ladbrokes).. However, out of deference to Mike Caro and Roy Cooke, I must say that Planet Poker is also one of the safest sites to have your money. BarryT | ||
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