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 AJ, tron, 13. Nov 2003 17:56 | ||
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| ok, sit and go 9 players left average stack of about 1100 raise with AJ and someone reraises me double the bet. i call and out comes KJJ rainbow. I check he goes all in. hmmmmmm what to do? | ||
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| Re: AJ, SpaceAce, 13. Nov 2003 18:30 | ||
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| What choice do you have? Call it unless you believe he is playing KJ or KK. SpaceAce | ||
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| Re: AJ, MozMan, 13. Nov 2003 18:47 | ||
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| tron- I'm thinking he's on AK or AA and trying to take the pot down right there, figuring it's unlikely that you have a J. Of course, there is the distinct possibility that he is on KK, so it is a gamble. But I think I will call this bet. -Moz "One November spawned a monster in the shape of this child..." | ||
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| Re: AJ, tron, 13. Nov 2003 18:48 | ||
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| he had KK, but what can u do | ||
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| Re: AJ, MozMan, 13. Nov 2003 19:02 | ||
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| Like I said, it's a gamble. Look at it this way, if he had 22 and the flop was 2JJ, he would still have you beat, but it might sting more. That's one of the beauties of the pokcet pair... if he hits a set and you hit trips you are dead because your trips give him the boat, and you still have only trips... you need to catch the case card to win it, or in your case, you could catch running Aces too. -Moz "One November spawned a monster in the shape of this child..." | ||
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| Re: AJ, magnus, 14. Nov 2003 10:48 | ||
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| Yes, that is what happened to me last night. AJ with flop JJ2, guy goes all-in, even if it is a gamble, I had to call it. Lets see, beaten by J2 (3 hands) and 22 (3 hands) and I would say J2 is not very likely (this was later in a tournament, most of the crazies gone). Even with 22, you have 4 outs (any A of the case J) + pairing the runner runner.... Of cause the guy has 22 and took a big chunk of my chips..... -Magnus | ||
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| Re: AJ, Bungus, 14. Nov 2003 01:04 | ||
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| hope for another jack... | ||
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| Re: AJ, 4 POKER, 13. Nov 2003 19:33 | ||
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| Tron - I think once you decided to call his initial raise preflop, you have to call his all in bet on the flop. He would have made the same play with A-A, and probably with A-K as well. (heck, he may go all in with 7-7 too....ya never know, because if 'you' didn't catch a good enough piece of the flop, calling someone's all in bet is pretty tough to do, and players make plays like that all the time). Alot of players would not bet all in after flopping Kings full, as they may apt for slowplaying a little bit, where you may actually fall for the trap of betting into him on the turn, and/or he may allow you to catch up a bit and then he would make his move. I would have called his bet in a heartbeat - you lose, you lose. To me, this is not the final table of a major tournament - where moving up to the next notch is going to make a signifigant difference, (although, I still may have chosen to play it the same way, and I'm not undermining the signifigance of your s-n-g either),but, it is a sit and go and if you wind up busting out after this hand, then so be it - you either gain a nice chip lead with a very strong flop for your holding and you get to bust someone out, or you go out early. I guess I would have busted out too if that was my hand, and I don't think that I would be self-guessing myself on my decision to call his all in bet. Just my opinion - I liked your call here. 4P- | ||
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| Re: AJ, KJo, 14. Nov 2003 14:03 | ||
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| It takes a special kind of bad player to go all in with KK on the flop in this situation, even though I know that's what he had I would not have read him for it. This flop was a dream flop for you, not perfect but incredibly strong. I'd call the all in in a heartbeat. Eli on 13. Nov 2003 17:56 tron wrote: > ok, sit and go > 9 players left > average stack of about 1100 > raise with AJ and someone reraises me > double the bet. > i call and out comes KJJ rainbow. > I check he goes all in. hmmmmmm > what to do? | ||
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| Re: AJ, Daniel, 16. Nov 2003 20:35 | ||
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| on 13. Nov 2003 17:56 tron wrote: > ok, sit and go > 9 players left > average stack of about 1100 > raise with AJ and someone reraises me > double the bet. indicates to me AA, AK, or QQ pretty much > i call and out comes KJJ rainbow. > I check he goes all in. hmmmmmm > what to do? if he raised so much preflop, you've gotta assume that he hit here. No way is he trying to buy the pot...if ure not in the absolute nuts and theres a definite possibility of j's full of k's, id get out. any fault to my logic? | ||
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| Re: AJ, KJo, 16. Nov 2003 22:53 | ||
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| Yes, fault in your logic- if he had the mortal nuts (KK), I can't imagine anyone going all in here (even though he did), that's an obvious slowplay. But the result doesn't matter here anyway. I would say he has something like AA or AK, or missed it entirely. KJ isn't a possibility given the reraise. I'd lick my lips before calling the all in. Eli on 16. Nov 2003 20:35 Daniel wrote: > on 13. Nov 2003 17:56 tron wrote: > > ok, sit and go > > 9 players left > > average stack of about 1100 > > raise with AJ and someone reraises me > > double the bet. > indicates to me AA, AK, or QQ pretty much > > i call and out comes KJJ rainbow. > > I check he goes all in. hmmmmmm > what to do? > if he raised so much preflop, you've gotta assume that he hit here. No way is he > trying to buy the pot...if ure not in the absolute nuts and theres a definite > possibility of j's full of k's, id get out. > > any fault to my logic? > | ||
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| Re: AJ, LJH, 17. Nov 2003 04:30 | ||
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| tron, checking was bad move, but when he goes all in you should fold.ljh | ||
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