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First time playing Omaha 8/b, Ian J, 11. Nov 2003 21:21 | ||
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| Hello, I've been playing hold'em for awhile and I've decided to try to learn Omaha 8/b. I've got plenty of questions. Any input is appreciated. 1. Will the % of flops seen generally be higher than that of any form of hold'em? 2. I played a hand earlier where the board was Jh Th 9h 2c 7h. The showdown had one person with the 8h for what I thought was the str. flush, but the person that won had the Qh 2h showing. Why didn't the 8h win with the straight flush? 3. Do suited aces raise, decrease, or stay the same in value as in hold'em? Thanks for the responses. I'm sure I'll have plenty more questions in about an hour. | ||
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Re: First time playing Omaha 8/b, Mark Gregorich, 12. Nov 2003 00:50 | ||
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| on 11. Nov 2003 21:21 Ian J wrote: > Hello, > I've been playing hold'em for awhile and I've decided to try to learn Omaha > 8/b. I've got plenty of questions. Any input is appreciated. > > 1. Will the % of flops seen generally be higher than that of any form of > hold'em? > very possibly, although not always - the good news is that the best hands in Omaha 8/b do well against lots of players, while it seems like aces usually get cracked against a bunch of players in hold'em > 2. I played a hand earlier where the board was Jh Th 9h 2c 7h. The showdown > had one person with the 8h for what I thought was the str. flush, but the person > that won had the Qh 2h showing. Why didn't the 8h win with the straight > flush? > You must always play exactly two cards from your hand and three from the board. So, in this case, the player with the 8h needed to have another heart in his hand to make a flush. Even then it probably wouldn't be a straight flush, as only three of those cards from the board could be used. > 3. Do suited aces raise, decrease, or stay the same in value as in hold'em? > They are better in Omaha 8/b provided you have wheel cards with them, particularly 2's and 3's. Aces are very powerful cards in this game, and it wouldn't be a bad strategy to fold every hand not containing an ace. > Thanks for the responses. I'm sure I'll have plenty more questions in about an > hour. good luck! Mark | ||
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Re: First time playing Omaha 8/b, American, 16. Nov 2003 01:33 | ||
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| I agree with Mark except on your first question. You should be playing far fewer hands in omaha 8 than in hold'em. Here are two good resources that will help give you a jump-start on omaha. There are more suckers in omaha 8 than any other form of poker, imo, because of situations like your second question. http://www.lowlimitomaha.com/ http://ehutchison.homestead.com/omahasystem.html | ||
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Re: First time playing Omaha 8/b, American, 16. Nov 2003 02:22 | ||
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| Don't I feel like an ass for contradicting Mark Gregorich? Oh well. I'll stand by what I said. Usually you can play about 1 in 4 to 6 hands at hold'em on average. I think you play a lot less than this in Omaha 8, due to the necessity of having the absolute nut hand. Speaking of nut hands, that's something you should get very good at reading. I had Aces full of kings beaten by a royal flush 13 minutes after having an Ace-high flush beaten by a straight-flush in a tournament a few weeks ago. While such extreme cases are more rare (usually the nut flush with no board pair or the aces full would be good), they are far less rare than in hold'em. And if there is a pair on the board in a 10 handed game, you may as well throw away your flush now. A king-high flush is marginal and a queen high flush almost never wins. This is all at low limit where most players you'll be against don't know what they're doing. I've never played a high limit omaha 8 game that mark is used to, but I'm sure it's quite a different animal. | ||
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