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 Short Handed Limit Omaha 8/b, AceHighSF, 7. Nov 2003 19:50 | ||
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| Hi, i'm a fairly seasoned hold'em player and do reasonably well at both limit and no limit, short handed and full games, in B&M casinos and online. Recently though i've been trying to pick up omaha 8/b in an effort to expand my selection of games to play, and to start i've been playing 2/4 and 3/6 omaha 8/b online, and occasionally i'll play a 5/10 or 6/12 game in a B&M casino. I've read what i've been able to get my hands on about the game, but i just can't seem to make it work, even after 6 months or so of trying 4-5 times a week. I find that my usual tight aggresive style of play just doesnt seem to take in the chips. I think i have worked on my hand selection, and i think i have figured out what types of hands do well multi way and heads up, but i'm just not raking in the chips in the long run, and and am losing more than just the rake. I also find that i seem to have even more trouble short handed, and that i have trouble figuring out when its best to bluff when short handed. Any and all help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance! | ||
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| Re: Short Handed Limit Omaha 8/b, Mark Gregorich, 7. Nov 2003 22:58 | ||
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| Assuming you have played enough hours to validate your poor results, here are a few questions/comments suggestions: Tight aggressive play will get the money, I promise. However, there are times to be aggressive in O/8 and times to be a caller. Due to the drawing and split pots in the game, calling is the correct play much more often than it is in hold'em. In lower limit games (I'm assuming they are pretty loose, with 5-6 players seeing the flop; if not, it may be tough to beat the rake), I would stick to raising preflop with mostly hands that play well multiway (A2 suited with backup types of hands). AA with 2 rags should be mucked - this is a chip burning hand in loose omaha games. As you move up in limits, you can raise with hands to narrow the field (hands that play well against fewer opponents, such as AAxx), but this maneuver is often futile in very loose games. For the rest of the hand, consider what a bet or raise will likely accomplish (as far as knocking players out versus just creating a bigger pot), and decide if that is what this particular hand warrants. When I play shorthanded O/8, I'm not necessarily looking to bluff a lot. I will, however, play hands like top pair with the 3rd nut low draw pretty strong. Its important to come out betting when you catch any piece of the flop, and keep the pressure on. This will make it tougher for your opponent to back into some kind of hand, a common occurrence in O/8. There is not as much pure bluffing as there is in shorthanded hold'em. If you become skilled at reading your opponent's hand, however, you can frequently determine if he has a made hand or is drawing. If you feel he is drawing, you can represent a made hand whether you have one or not. If the draw misses, you should be able to pick up the pot. I hope this was helpful - Mark | ||
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