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 What would you do (part 5), Palinya, 7. Nov 2003 17:36 | ||
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| There are only people at the table and I am on the button. I get dealt a Th Jh. UTG calls, I call, SB calls, BB checks Flop is 9c 6s Ts. It is checked to me and I bet with top pair (questionable kicker but with only 4 people at the table, I doubt I need a better kicker) flush and straight draws are scarey but I bet to make them pay for their draws.... and 2 of them do (1 folds) Turn comes up a Td and I have a set which misses the flush and straight draws. First guy bets, second guy folds. I raise and he reraises. Could he be slow-playing the straight or does he have a T too. Now I'm a little worried about my kicker but it's not horrible considering there are only 4 at the table so I call. River comes up a Qs which doesn't worry me much. It would have it if was the turn due to over-pairs and him possibly having a Q or making his flush but since he showed re-reraised the turn when his T hit, I'm doubting the Q helped him much. I also doubt it helped him make a straight because it just doesn't fit with re-reraising the turn and the fact I was holding a J that he would need. If I had a stronger kicker, I might consider a raise but with a J kicker I just call. He turns over a pair of 99s that he slow-played on the flop when his trips hit... and the TT on the board gives him the boat. I lost but I don't feel I played this that horribly. Is there anyway I could have put him on pocket 9s? I didn't even consider the full house possibility. Is there anything I could have done or did he just play this well? | ||
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| Re: What would you do (part 5), iceman5, 7. Nov 2003 17:54 | ||
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| I think you played this one perfectly. The interesting thing though is that it illustrates my point in hand 1 (I think) that people do slowplay a set even with a draw on the board. Once he reraises you cant do much besides check/call and pray. On a side note, when the 2nd 10 fell on the turn, you set you had a set. You actually have 3 tens not a set. A set is much better because its hidden. A set will make you much more money...as it did your opponent in this case. | ||
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| Re: What would you do (part 5), Boftx, 10. Nov 2003 11:27 | ||
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| My comments are interspersed. on 7. Nov 2003 17:36 Palinya wrote: > There are only people at the table and I am on the button. > Good thing, if there were any ferrets you's be in real trouble. > I get dealt a Th Jh. UTG calls, I call, SB calls, BB checks > Without knowing details, I usually assume pre-flop callers have paints or pairs in a short-handed game. The BB of course in on a free ride, and the SB I would think could be on big connectors as well. > Flop is 9c 6s Ts. It is checked to me and I bet with top pair (questionable > kicker but with only 4 people at the table, I doubt I need a better kicker) > flush and straight draws are scarey but I bet to make them pay for their > draws.... and 2 of them do (1 folds) > I'm going to guess that one of the blinds folded here. If that was the case, my original thoughts of paints and pairs would be re-inforced. > Turn comes up a Td and I have a set which misses the flush and straight draws. > First guy bets, second guy folds. I raise and he reraises. Could he be > slow-playing the straight or does he have a T too. Now I'm a little worried > about my kicker but it's not horrible considering there are only 4 at the table > so I call. > The re-raise on the turn would tell me immediately to start thinking about a flopped set for the boat or a hand with a T and big kicker. > River comes up a Qs which doesn't worry me much. It would have it if was the > turn due to over-pairs and him possibly having a Q or making his flush but since > he showed re-reraised the turn when his T hit, I'm doubting the Q helped him > much. I also doubt it helped him make a straight because it just doesn't fit > with re-reraising the turn and the fact I was holding a J that he would need. > If I had a stronger kicker, I might consider a raise but with a J kicker I just > call. > I think yor reasoning is fine other than not considering 66 or 99 being out against you. KT, AT are both reasonable and likely hands to be there too, given the turn play. > He turns over a pair of 99s that he slow-played on the flop when his trips > hit... and the TT on the board gives him the boat. > Slow-playing a flopped set is standard play, and not nearly as dangerous in a short-handed game. That re-raise on the turn was a good tip-off to this. I'm only somewhat surprised the 99 didn't raise pre-flop. > I lost but I don't feel I played this that horribly. Is there anyway I could > have put him on pocket 9s? I didn't even consider the full house possibility. > Is there anything I could have done or did he just play this well? I don't think you could have done much different, other than to see the possible boat when the board paired. If you had done that you might have folded to either the turn re-raise or river bet if you had believed it was in fact there. I believe the SB(?) played his hand very well and got a great payoff for it. | ||
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