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 Hand from 2table SNG, pt_Gatsby, 7. Nov 2003 09:40 | ||
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| A nice run of bad coin flips has left me questioning some of my plays. Not so much because I think they are wrong, but because its managed to get me from positive to negative in a hurry. If it is an error, gotta fix it up fast! Last night, after a good 1.25 hours of SNG play at a 2 table Holdem NL, this hand came up: Players left: 5 Pays to top 4. Short stack is ~2000, large stack is ~7000 Me: roughly 4100 chips (SB) Opp: Roughly 6500 chips (BB) 100/200, ante 25 (putting thepot at 425) Everyone fold around to me. I have AKo and figure I'm good to attack the BB. I raise 600 (ie: SB +500), Enough for him to call with a decent hand, but more likely to fold. We have been fighting over blinds for about 20-25 minutes already, with nearly no movement of chips (just constant re-balancing). Most of the time, they let it go - but on occassion, they fight back - normally the other person is bluffing and folds. So it's very tough to say if he smells me trying to steal and has a decent fight-back hand, or he actually has a hand. He raises me back (it would make me pot committed), and I ponder.... I'm just under 50% to any pair he has, short of AA or KK. I'm a massive favorite to any Ax or any Kx, and tied with AK I'm favored over any two undercards. Seems like a good all in to me. Also, if I doubled up at this point, I would probably pull 1st or 2nd, as it would leave two short stacks with me with the large stack. So I go all in, and he calls - has 88. I don't improve, and crash and burn - out of the money (bubbled for the 3rd time that night... all on a similar high cards vs pairs, or my pairs vs one pair better). Was it the right play? Should I have increased my initial bet? Calling would of failed horribly, he certainly would of attacked me with 88 in the BB. Was it worth the coin flip? | ||
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| Re: Hand from 2table SNG, ReMMy, 7. Nov 2003 10:10 | ||
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| It was probably a bad call. If you keep busting out right before the payout bubble then you need to take a closer look at your game. I play the 2 table SnG's at PokerStars daily. I go out in 3 different places: 1. Before lvl 2 - My AA or KK get busted by an underdog. 2. Right when we get to the final table - Usually when I make it to final table w/ a lot less than avg stack. 3. In the money I've busted out 5th ONE time in the past 2 weeks. If you're an experienced player then this should happen very rarely IMO. With 5 players left, I think you played too aggressively. Had the stacks been switched, and you would have been left with 2k then the play would have been much better. Evaluate the situation from his perpective... If you're stealing, he just caught you. If you have AK, AQ, AJ, KQ etc, you are an underdog. If you have a lower pp you're a huge underdog If you have a higher pp he is still in the tournament if he doesn't make a set. Since you've been attacking blinds for 20-25 minutes, chances are(and were) that it was one of the first 3 situations, not the last... Coin flip situations like that are great when you have more chips than your opponent, not the other way around... | ||
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| Re: Hand from 2table SNG, pt_Gatsby, 7. Nov 2003 12:13 | ||
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| Thanks for the input - I agree, if this keeps happening, its probably not luck and I need to fix it. I definately agree that from his perspective, he probably made the right play. The problem is whether I should of backed down not knowing what he had. Sounds like I should of. I got caught up because people had been fighting back with decent SH hands, which I would definately dominate. The chances of him having a pair in the BB seemed unlikely... but not worth going out on the bubble, I suppose. Oh well... Won't let that happen again unless I have a clear advantage! | ||
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| Re: Hand from 2table SNG, Eihli, 7. Nov 2003 16:05 | ||
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| You shouldn't raise if you wouldn't be comfortable facing a re-raise. If you raise minimum it will look like a steal and he'll re-raise you with a lot of hands. If you raise more than minimum you put a lot of your stack in and are pot committed. I'd either raise minimum and fold to a re-raise, or be the first to push all-in. | ||
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