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 Ultimate Bet is not living by it's posted rules, Hardrock75, 5. Nov 2003 22:31 | ||
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| I recently played in a 3/6$ Omaha Hi/lo split, 8/b game at Ultimate Bet (UB) and noticed the "NO FLOP_NO DROP" rule was not in effect. I was involved in one hand where I was the big blind (3$) and all players folded around to me. All I received of the 4$ in the pot (the small blind,1$ and the big blind,3$) was 2$. I then watched to see if the same thing happened to others and sure enough it did. This should not be as UB says in their rake structure "No flop- No drop". Has anyone else noticed this and besides emailing the site (which I have done) what can I do to recover the monies owed to we players? | ||
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| Re: Ultimate Bet is not living by it's posted rules, Schuster, 5. Nov 2003 23:30 | ||
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| Ultimate bet does not include "raises" as part of the pot won. When everyone folds around to you in the big blind, they count it as winning $1 from the small blind and $1 of your big blind. Similarly, if someone bets $3 into a $7 pot on the flop, you raise, and they fold... you will be credited as winning $13, not $16. The $3 bet plus the $7 pot plus $3 from you call, but not the $3 from your raise. Hope this clears things up. Lee | ||
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| Re: Ultimate Bet is not living by it's posted rules, MozMan, 6. Nov 2003 15:46 | ||
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| Exactly, if you look at the hand history from a hand like that, you will notice, that the will first say that you were "returned $2 uncalled," then that you won $2 in the pot. Put those together and that's your $3 plus the $1 SB. -Moz "Did you exchange a walk-on part in a war for the lead-role in a cage?" | ||
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| Re: Ultimate Bet is not living by it's posted rules, jumpthru, 9. Nov 2003 22:56 | ||
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| Which leads to the next question: I have wondered whether the reason party poker and others, add the raise to the pot size, is they then can charge more in rake... Is this true? If that pot you just talked of was dealt on party would the rake be taken from $16 as opposed to $13 on UB? on 6. Nov 2003 15:46 MozMan wrote: > Exactly, if you look at the hand history from a hand like that, you will notice, that the > will first say that you were "returned $2 uncalled," then that you won $2 in the pot. Put > those together and that's your $3 plus the $1 SB. > > -Moz > > "Did you exchange a walk-on part in a war for the lead-role in a cage?" http://www.offsuit.com/ - A different look at poker. | ||
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| Re: Ultimate Bet is not living by it's posted rules, MozMan, 10. Nov 2003 05:38 | ||
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| Well, I never play party, so I can't say for sure, but something in their rules should say whether they are raking uncalled bets. The norm is that they should NOT be raking uncalled bets, tho. -Moz "One November spawned a monster in the shape of this child..." | ||
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| Re: Ultimate Bet is not living by it's posted rules, Boftx, 10. Nov 2003 10:08 | ||
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| My experience is that they do not rake uncalled bets. Jim | ||
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