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Playing SB heads-up, Aisthesis, 5. Nov 2003 18:18
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How bad do the cards need to get to fold SB in a heads-up situation (assuming I don't have the other guy running scared or such)?
Currently, I'll generally keep anything if one of the cards is 10 or better (with the exception of T2 and T3 probably), or if both cards are 6 or better.
About right? too picky? or too liberal here?
Secondly, what do you need to raise from here? Any pair I'd definitely go with, although perhaps just a call with QQ or better. And AX I'd also raise, probably K with T or better.
Third, for the final two of a tourney, how does big or small stack effect these criteria. I would basically assume (perhaps incorrectly?) that the shorter my stack, while the general criteria stay pretty much the same, the more I would need to spice things up with attempted blind steals--timing those less according to holdings than according to flow of the game (like shortly after winning a raised pot at showdown). With the big stack just keep it tight and not unnecessarily give the opponent a chance to get back in the game. Correct?
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Re: Playing SB heads-up, Dr_Monkey, 6. Nov 2003 08:34
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When in the SB, what you play depends on a few things.
How big the blinds are.
How big your stack is compared to the other player.
How aggressive the other player is.
How well do you play after the flop.

If the BB is passive, you can call more hands to see the flop.

If you have a big stack, you can call more hands.

If the blinds are low, you can call more hands.

I have played some hands from the SB that I normally wouldn't play and have taken down some big pots and even won because the flop was not threatening to the other player. i.e. Called with Q2o and flopped Q 2 2.

I wouldn't get carried away with trying to see the flop. Some players will catch on to that and raise when you limp.
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Re: Playing SB heads-up, Aisthesis, 6. Nov 2003 10:20
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Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Up to now I've generally done fairly well heads-up, but I think largely because most of my opponents were too passive. And in my most recent heads-up with a quite good opponent, I was fortunate enough to have a very large stack to work with at the start.
In an attempt to answer my own question, I was looking at the "pokerstove" odds calculator for a few hands heads-up against random starting hands. Interestingly, while A2o is a 55% favorite, K2o is right at 50%, and Q2o is already an underdog at 47%. For whatever it's worth, T8o comes up just shy of 50% and T9o at 51%. I would tend to think at least 50% winning chances are probably a fairly good guideline for limping.
I also have the feeling that there's a big "texture of the game" factor here as well--times where one needs to be pretty picky and times where hitting back with a steal-raise attempt even on a dubious hand is the right move.
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Re: Playing SB heads-up, Aisthesis, 6. Nov 2003 10:28
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Of the factors you mention, I would tend to view having the big stack as the one that should loosen one up the LEAST. Correct? My thinking is simply that with big stack, the one thing you don't want to do is give your opponent any unnecessary opportunities to get back in the game. While flopping a pair (or better) with lesser cards can provide some opportunites to keep the pressure on, one will always be playing out of position here... Or am I viewing this wrong?
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Re: Playing SB heads-up, Formless, 6. Nov 2003 09:28
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The first time you have a raising hand, limp and see what he does. If he raises you, reraise or just shove it all in. In any case, you want your opponent to see monsters hiding under his bed when you limp, because more often than not you'll have a crappy hand and want to get a free look in the SB, so let him know right away not to mess with you. I call this strategy the Pimp n' limp: Lay the pimp hand down early so you don't have to lay down the limp hand later.
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Re: Playing SB heads-up, Aisthesis, 6. Nov 2003 09:59
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I like that idea. What would you view as raising hands? For this move, I'm thinking they need to be pretty strong ones: maybe TT-AA or AQ or better? For the all-in move probably more like just AA, maybe KK?
Normally, heads-up I'll raise pretty much any pair, but I'm guessing low one's aren't quite premium enough to make this move on.
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