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my first 200+15 sng and i feel sick, holleywood, 28. Oct 2003 21:50
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ok so im tired of playing the little 5 and 10 dollar tables so i decided hell i have won enough to pay for a entry in to one of these badboys! Well i did it. I played tight and aggressive for the majority of the game. I was quite surprised that people playing w/ this kind of money were playing so loose. This was looser than some of the 5 dollar tables i played. Anyway, were down to three people including my self and this hand comes up.......please comment on my play......i am bar1374 sitting in seat 1 in the BB............should i have played a little more tight??? Please help..... shorthanded is my weakness... thank you
***** Hand History for Game 221064646 *****
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1222992) - Tue Oct 28 23:05:07 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2612 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 1: bar1374 (2430)
Seat 5: Hudak_TheKid (2680)
Seat 10: cwposton (2890)
cwposton posts small blind (200)
bar1374 posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to bar1374 [ Ac, Kh ]
Hudak_TheKid raises (1000) to 1000
cwposton folds.
bar1374 raises (2030) to 2430
bar1374 calls all-In.
Hudak_TheKid calls (1430)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ As, 7s, Jh ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 9s ]
Creating Main Pot with $5060 with bar1374
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5060 |
Board: [ As 7s Jh 8c 9s ]
bar1374 balance 0, lost 2430 [ Ac Kh ] [ a pair of aces -- Ac,As,Kh,Jh,9s ]
Hudak_TheKid balance 5310, bet 2430, collected 5060, net +2630 [ Ah 7d ] [ two pairs, aces and sevens -- Ah,As,Jh,7d,7s ]
cwposton balance 2690, lost 200 (folded)

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Re: my first 200+15 sng and i feel sick, Schuster, 28. Oct 2003 22:45
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Hi holleywood. You got your money in as a 3 to 1 favorite, what more can you ask for? You played the hand fine, you just got outdrawn. Would you feel bad about the hand if it was a $5 sng? Probably not. If you keep getting your money in as a 3 to 1 favorite, you'll come out ahead in the long run.

Lee
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Re: my first 200+15 sng and i feel sick, holleywood, 28. Oct 2003 22:56
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yea i guess. its just a little bit of heartache.... i mean i played the best i could and to only get 3rd sucks....i just think i should of won thats all. Thank u for ur comments. but it does seem that when i play these sng heads up and i get a good hand AA KK QQ AK i always get busted. by some b-s for example im delt AA heads up in a 30 sng and go all in preflop he had 200 more chips than me. he calls and when a 223 comes on the flop to give him 2 full of 3's. lol oh well i guess i can always remember when i lose.but cant remember how i won. oh yea and go Mounties!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: my first 200+15 sng and i feel sick, Risky Business, 29. Oct 2003 10:31
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Would you expect many people to put their entire tournament on the line with A-7 when the stacks are equal and the payout is $1000 for first?

Me neither. He took your bait, but caught a bigger fish, that's all.

File away in bad beats.
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Re: my first 200+15 sng and i feel sick, Paul Stine, 30. Oct 2003 14:07
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You played it fine.

The player that sucked out, Hudak_TheKid, has a history of calling big raises with weak aces. I played a hand against him in a $200+15 tourney that was very similiar.

NLHE, Blinds are 10/20 and I am in the BB. Hudak_TheKid is in EP and limps behind two others, a couple more limpers enter and I raise it up, from the BB with KK to 300. (That makes it 280 to go for each of those limpers.) Everyone folds except Hudak_TheKid who raises his last 40 to boot. I call the 40. He turns over A8s. Long story short, he spikes an A on the river.

It didn't knock my out, only took my stack from about 1100 to about 760.

Now, you were down to 3 and we were down to about 1300 out of 1400. It obviously doesn't matter. He is a weak ace lover. Use it to crush him in the future. He obviously has more money than sense.

Paul Stine
College Station, TX
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Am I wrong?, LKP, 30. Oct 2003 22:31
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You totally did the right thing. I would have done the exact same thing as you. He just got lucky and caught a 7. If no 7 had popped up, you would have won.
However, I do have to comment on the strength of his hand. I think with astronomical blinds and the game being only 3-handed, I probably would have done the same thing.
It's my opinion that in a typical ring game, playing weak aces like this is a very poor play. But the combination of high blinds and short-handedness makes playing weak aces a good play.
He was UTG and raised, then you reraised. It would have been another thing if he reraised you again, but he could only call.
Considering the chip stacks were fairly even before the hand, folding to your reraise would have left him quite the short stack, and he would have had to blind away 600 chips every 3 hands at a minimum.
I'm pretty much asking for people's comments on his opponents play, rather than his. I can admittedly see myself doing the same thing in his situation.
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Re: my first 200+15 sng and i feel sick, mroban, 2. Nov 2003 09:29
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What the heck do you feel bad about, you made a perfect play. Had you merely called his bet preflop you would have acted first after the flop. How can you not think you have the best hand here?

You are pot committed after the flop anyway, so why beat yourself up? How could you avoid going allin here? What do you think you should have done differently? Fold preflop? Of course not. Call? You would be allin after the flop nomatter what.

Here, you made the right call because you want to see all 5 cards in this spot.

Congrats on making the money in a high stakes game. I haven't played bigger than $50 yet. You are my idol.
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