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 Help w/ 2 hands - pos. more clear, Ostebovik, 28. Oct 2003 14:53 | ||
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| I'm playing 5/10 online at a game where I know about half the table. Most of those are tight/aggressive. I'm in seat 9 and 2 off the button with AJs – hearts and it's folded around to the person on my right, seat 8, whom I don't know. They raise. Is this a call? I did call and the BB called. Flop comes 7hJc3h. Raiser bets and I raise to see where I'm at w/ top pair top kicker and the nut flush draw. BB calls as does the raiser. turn is 9h. I love that card but am unsure what to do. Original raiser checks and decide to try for a check-raise but it's checked around. River is 3d pairing the board. Not really liking that but don't see a set out there based on the betting. I bet out, BB folds and raiser pops it. now I'm worried and just call. He turns over JJ for the boat. What could I have done differently? I'm thinking the first call was where I started the catastrophe... Second hand... Same table 2 hands later. First three limp then it's raised and called to me. I've got 99 and with that much $ in the pot I think it's a pretty easy call to catch a 9. Maybe I'm wrong again and this is a pattern..? SB 3bets and BB caps it. ALL Call. it's 2 bets to me and a pretty big pot so I call. Flop comes 383 w/ no flush draw. It's checked to me. What's my play here? I bet so as not to give a free card. SB calls and BB pops it. One call back to me. I call as does SB. turn is another 3. I've got a small boat here in a potential storm. It's checked again to me. Again what's my play? I'm a bit confused. I bet it's called around. River is T. Checked to me again and I bet thinking that overcards missed. SB folds, BB CALLS and early bettor calls as well. BB shows KK and early bettor had 55. How did I play this wrong if I did? Any help w/ this as I feel this may be a big leak for me. Thanks, Gerard. | ||
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| Re: Help w/ 2 hands - pos. more clear, mkpoker, 28. Oct 2003 15:17 | ||
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| 1st hand is easy. You played fine and got beat by a lucky draw. Calling a single raise with AJs is an easy decision, IMO. Then you hit the nut flush on the turn and must be feeling good. I'd probably have bet out rather than attempting a CR, but either play is fine. When your opponent raises on the river, he representing a full house, but I think you need to make the crying call. Just unlucky here, I think. 2nd hand is tougher. It really depends on your read of the BB--Is he a wild, loose player? If not, when he caps it, I think a big overpair is his most likely holding. Even so, with the pot so huge--30ish SBs--you're getting the right odds to call in the hopes of flopping a set. It's quite possible the rag flop helped no one. But even so, you've got to figure that you're way behind and are drawing to a 2-outer. I would have taken the free card on the flop. You need that free card! Besides, there's no way you're going to bluff out the entire field. Nonetheless, when the flop bet comes back to you with two more bets, you should be folding here. You're not getting the right odds to draw to a 2-outer anymore. Similarly, I think your bet on the turn was ill-advised. BB did everything but tattoo "big pair" on his forehead. You couldn't have been too surprised when he turned over KK. IMO, you should have given this one up much earlier. | ||
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| Re: Help w/ 2 hands - pos. more clear, Schuster, 29. Oct 2003 09:36 | ||
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| Well said, mk. Lee | ||
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| Re: Help w/ 2 hands - pos. more clear, modestmice, 28. Oct 2003 21:28 | ||
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| i only read up until u raised the flop and checked yer nut flush on the turn. wow. never do that again. not never, but never in that situation. (no offense) but that is not the spot to checkraise. btw, we just had a nice thread about checkraising. why would someone bet after you raised them, AND a scare flush card falls on the turn?!?! | ||
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| Re: Help w/ 2 hands - pos. more clear, Mark Barnett II, 29. Oct 2003 09:02 | ||
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| THIS! is why i was posting the check raise question, i personally have a good idea when I feel comfortable trying for one *which is different than others, good or bad* i figure if i can get people to answer basic guideline questions it helps newer less experienced players and god forbid i might actually learn something myself. think MK pretty much summed it all up | ||
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