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 Building a Bankroll, JonnyC, 27. Oct 2003 09:20 | ||
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| On the site I hear many poeple saying they started with 30-40 bucks and have turned that into a few thousand online. Over the last few months I had built some sort of bankroll but started playing at a limit outside my bankroll. Even though I was playing well, I took a downswing and do not have enough to keep playing at that level. Lesson learned. I was wondering what limits poeple start out at when they only have say 50-100 dollars. The .5/1 are so loose that I feel even the best players would have to wait a loonngg time to make a decent amount, and a lot of poeple on this forum say that they still can't make money. At 1/2, the suggested bankroll start is 600 (300 times BB). So, what are you guys playing if you only had say 50-400? NL25? NL100? 10 dollar tournaments? what does everyone find the best way to consitently win at the lower limits? Thanks for any input Jon | ||
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| Re: Building a Bankroll, ManicStarSeed, 27. Oct 2003 09:52 | ||
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| I started out about a month-and-a-half ago. Over a period of 3 weeks, I deposited about $300. I never played anything less than 1/2. I also play in $5 or $10 Sit-n-Gos. Until the last week, I never had a running balance above $120. Well, to make a long story short, by the end of 3 1/2 weeks, I was down to $20 in my account. I tighetened up considerably, picked better times to play in regards to my own schedule. I am happy with the results. I have $170 in my bankroll. It will be a slow crawl to build the bankroll. There are some "big" swings in 1/2. Know that you can loose $100 easily in 1/2. I find it a little easier than anything lower, as I play better at this limit. Never play at a limit that is to large for your bankroll and never play at limits for less than you care about. Mss | ||
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| Re: Building a Bankroll, Roy Cooke, 27. Oct 2003 10:05 | ||
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| Hi Johnny I think you are kinda in a Catch-22, you don't have enough money to play at a level in which you can build your bankroll and give yourself almost no shot of getting broke. My advice, since you have built a bankroll before, is to take shots at 1-2 games when the games are lucrative. I would tend to want to sit in passive games as it will lower your fluctuations. You may go broke, but if you have the best of it you are still a favorite to get on track to building a big bankroll. Life is Good :-) Roy Cooke on 27. Oct 2003 09:20 JonnyC wrote: > On the site I hear many poeple saying they started with 30-40 bucks and have > turned that into a few thousand online. Over the last few months I had built > some sort of bankroll but started playing at a limit outside my bankroll. Even > though I was playing well, I took a downswing and do not have enough to keep > playing at that level. Lesson learned. > > I was wondering what limits poeple start out at when they only have say 50-100 > dollars. The .5/1 are so loose that I feel even the best players would have to > wait a loonngg time to make a decent amount, and a lot of poeple on this forum > say that they still can't make money. At 1/2, the suggested bankroll start is > 600 (300 times BB). So, what are you guys playing if you only had say 50-400? > NL25? NL100? 10 dollar tournaments? what does everyone find the best way to > consitently win at the lower limits? Thanks for any input > > Jon | ||
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| Re: Building a Bankroll, Stl10202, 27. Oct 2003 23:25 | ||
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| My first online experience was horrible. I started with $75 and went to the .5/1 HE tables and lost $35 in the 1st day. I said screw that and played my game, which would be S&G tourneys. I started with $5 ones and then worked my way up. After I have gained a lot more money, I traveled to the NL $25 tables seeing that I wouldn't mind too much if I lost $25. Now I am sitting at roughly a $230 bankroll and I have only been playing a week. You just have to pick your game and know how to beat it. And watch out for idiots who call everything. | ||
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| Re: Building a Bankroll, modestmice, 28. Oct 2003 00:05 | ||
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| although your week is going well, i think we should reserve jumping to conclusions about your bankroll until next week... | ||
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| Re: Building a Bankroll, FlopDaNutz, 28. Oct 2003 14:03 | ||
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| I like the idea of a $25 NL table as well. This is all I play now. Flops can still be cheap to see but you can still get callers when you raise preflop with a good hand to get the chasers out. My theory is if you buyin with 25 and you get over 50....then cash out and sit back down at the table...that way your next buy in is free and you can afford to take more gambles on all in bets with a questionable hand. If you can win anything after you cashed in the first time, you are playing with all profit but don't be too loose. Now set your limit to $65 or $70 and if you get over this amount, cash out again and take a break, possibly for the rest of the night. Tomorrow you could get cold cards and lose 2 $25 buyins but you are only giving back profits instead of going in the hole. Many will disagree and say that if you get up double the buyin or more, keep playing with your big stack and use your chip leqad to your advantage, but this always bites me in the ars. I tend to play more aggressively and will end up eventually giving that money back when I think "I have won this much from these idiots, Im sure i can win more". This theory usually comes back to haunt me, so when I started using my "cash out and rebuy with $25" theory, my bankroll has been on a steady incline. With only a $100-150 deposit in a poker account, I wouldn't play any ring games, too many chasers in LL and cant afford anything over 1/2. $25 NL tables is definately the way to go with that bankroll, if you just don't play NL tables well, then try the $5 or $10 SNG tourneys. Good luck to ya. | ||
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| Re: Building a Bankroll, jsnow, 5. Nov 2003 10:57 | ||
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| you need to learn about basic game theory and untill then please take a seat in my game. | ||
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| Re: Building a Bankroll, Aisthesis, 28. Oct 2003 15:22 | ||
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| My own experience is exactly what MM cautioned about: Put in $100, built it to $250 at $25 NL tables within a few days. Then I decided to go up to $50 NL tables (.25/.50), promptly lost my buy-in. Rather than go back down to .10/.25, where I had done well, I thought I just HAD to master the next level and was soon down to less than $50. Anyhow, to make a long story short, I ended up putting in altogether $300 and losing a bunch of it before I was slowly able to work my way back to better than break-even. For me, anyway, my conclusion after all this was to never play a buy-in bigger than 20% of my total available poker funds. That gives enough security for me currently to allow me to bet hands the way I think they should be bet. While I've definitely lost some of my buy-ins just due to poor play, I've also lost some on bets I'd make again. Particularly with a maniac at the table in ring play, I think you've gotta go ahead and bet/call when the odds are in your favor--even though you lose sometimes. But if a loss is something that's really going to screw up my total bankroll, I feel like l'm really no longer in a position to bet the odds on such hands. I also feel like I need a buy-in of at least 80 BB's in order to be able to capitalize on a big hand or to sit through a long streak of bad hands. | ||
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| Re: Building a Bankroll, ICIP, 28. Oct 2003 15:27 | ||
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| Well first off you need to play the game that you are comfortable with, and that you feel you can beat. Whether that be NL or Limit holdem, stud, or omaha. Stick with that game until you have a large bankroll, but you need to choose a game where the rake isn't too high in comparison to the pot size, a big problem for lower limit games. Online is nice for this, since the rake size is smaller then B&M. Be careful trying to move up limits, since the games do get harder and a swing can empty your bankroll very fast. If you need to start at 1-2 or lower, and the games are very loose then only play hands like AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK and AQ. Raise preflop and make them pay for playing loose and creating a bigger pot for the times you do have a hand. You will see fewer fluctuations the tighter you play. Still you have to play the situation. I personally took my bankroll from $200 to a few thousand mainly by playing multitable tournaments and winning a few and placing in a couple of others, in just a couple of months. Anyways, I hope this helps and good luck in building your roll! ICIP | ||
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| Re: Building a Bankroll, timmer, 29. Oct 2003 06:41 | ||
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| Play in a way to limit negative variance and take advantage of buy in bonuses. Im usually always playing on some sort of bonus or another. claiming free money is one of the best ways I've found to build up your BR. | ||
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| Re: Building a Bankroll, GoBucs40, 5. Nov 2003 11:49 | ||
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| I started with $50 on UB in June and now I'm up to $560 but I have since moved all that money to Party Poker. I love playing the $10 Sit n Go's and the $25 Pot Limit tables. | ||
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| Re: Building a Bankroll, Mean G, 28. Nov 2003 08:21 | ||
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| Six weeks ago I started with $50 at PokerStars and won $13 my first night playing .25-.50. I spent a few hours looking for real estate in Vegas, and then I returned to the table prepared to clean up some more. Lost $7, then lost $6. I've been playing regularly and got up to $100, but a cold streak has left me right where I started, at $50. I was hoping to build up a little money to play some higher limits, but for now I'm playing .50-1 and pretty much spinning my wheels. I do feel I'm playing better, and I think I've learned a few things, but I figured I'd be way ahead right now and I ain't. I'm just trying to be patient, play as well as I can, learn as much as I can, and wait for my bankroll to plump up. | ||
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