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All-In-itis; Is there a cure???, PBG, 23. Oct 2003 08:56 | ||
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| What can be done to stem the spread of this no-limit tournament ending disease? Comments such as, "you're trying to buy the pot, aren't you?" and "I'm holding aces" don't seem to help. I tried calling the CDC, but they just laughed at me. | ||
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Re: All-In-itis; Is there a cure???, KJo, 23. Oct 2003 09:16 | ||
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| I guess I'm diseased. There's something fun about pushing all my chips in. Scares the others, except for those holding AA of course. They just laugh, and laugh... But honestly Peanut Butter and Gelly (I can't spell)- one of the first things I try to determine when I'm playing NL tournaments is who at the table is willing to push all their chips in with less than the nuts, who is willing to do it pre-flop (and what type of hand/situation they'll do it with), and then I try to beat up those who I know will lay down to an all in bet or big bet. I don't mess around with the really aggressive players unless I've got more than the goods. Eli on 23. Oct 2003 08:56 PBG wrote: > What can be done to stem the spread of this no-limit tournament ending disease? > Comments such as, "you're trying to buy the pot, aren't you?" and "I'm holding > aces" don't seem to help. > > I tried calling the CDC, but they just laughed at me. | ||
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Re: All-In-itis; Is there a cure???, PBG, 23. Oct 2003 10:58 | ||
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| I'm holding AA pre-flop and this guy next to me goes all in. I'm like WHAT??? So I call and he turns over aces. We're both laughing hysterically as we're splitting the blinds we drove out and the people who held 33 and 72 wish they had stayed in. I understand THAT. But what of the people holding 44 who raise early position to all in? Why are there so many of them? | ||
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Re: All-In-itis; Is there a cure???, KevinK, 23. Oct 2003 11:26 | ||
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| You know, I always thought it was illegal to state what you had in your hand. The only experiences I've had with people stating hands was to knock people out of hands with complete crap(someone did that the other night, he had pocket 2s went all in and I crushed him with pocket fours). That might be their thinking. Never trust a poker player. Also, if blinds creep on you, sometimes its time to try to double up. | ||
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Re: All-In-itis; Is there a cure???, Dr_Monkey, 23. Oct 2003 11:41 | ||
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| What are you considering calling with when the early player goes all in with 44? Anything other than a pair 55 or higher is an underdog. Let someone else call. Now if you are at a table full of all in players, (i.e. 4-5 players left in later stages of a SnG), then you might have to fight back. Are the blinds high enough to hurt your stack? If not, wait for a good hand. Maybe the all in'ers will take each other out. Other times you have to take the gamble with Ax. But I think if you are at a table that is all in happy, sooner than later someone is going to go all in on a bluff and get caught. Or your all in with a pair will catch someone that thinks you are bluffing. Patience is the key. I had an all in happy player in a SnG the other night. Worked well for him. But when I went all in with 44, he called with Q3o. Few hands later, I had AKs and he called my all in with 78o. on 23. Oct 2003 10:58 PBG wrote: > I understand THAT. But what of the people holding 44 who raise early position to all in? > Why are there so many of them? | ||
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Re: All-In-itis; Is there a cure???, Schuster, 23. Oct 2003 14:21 | ||
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| on 23. Oct 2003 11:41 Dr_Monkey wrote: > What are you considering calling with when the early player goes all in with 44? Anything > other than a pair 55 or higher is an underdog. Let someone else call. Not true. Any higher suited connector other than AKs and 65s is a favorite over the 44. Not that it is overly important, but... Lee | ||
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Re: All-In-itis; Is there a cure???, KJo, 23. Oct 2003 13:13 | ||
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| That same thing happened at the final table last Sunday at HP- two players went all in pre-flop and both had AA. They were both the short stacks, so before I saw their hands I was thinking "sweet, one of the short stacks is leaving!" Didn't work out too well for the third guy who went all in with 99. Don't know about why there are so many of the others, all I can say is if you're shortstacked it isn't a bad time to go all in with 44 or something like it, or if you've presented yourself well and feel confident that you won't get called. I've gone all in with worse, then sweated bullets waiting to see if anyone calls. Eli on 23. Oct 2003 10:58 PBG wrote: > I'm holding AA pre-flop and this guy next to me goes all in. I'm like WHAT??? So I call > and he turns over aces. We're both laughing hysterically as we're splitting the blinds we > drove out and the people who held 33 and 72 wish they had stayed in. > > I understand THAT. But what of the people holding 44 who raise early position to all in? > Why are there so many of them? | ||
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Re: All-In-itis; Is there a cure???, gary ford, 23. Oct 2003 16:10 | ||
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| on 23. Oct 2003 10:58 PBG wrote: > I'm holding AA pre-flop and this guy next to me goes all in. I'm like WHAT??? So I call > and he turns over aces. We're both laughing hysterically as we're splitting the blinds we > drove out and the people who held 33 and 72 wish they had stayed in. > > I understand THAT. But what of the people holding 44 who raise early position to all in? > Why are there so many of them? stupidity is contagious--call the CDC | ||
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Re: All-In-itis; Is there a cure???, LKP, 23. Oct 2003 20:03 | ||
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| If I was short stacked, the blinds were high, and it was a short-handed game, I'd go all-in with 44 in a heart-beat. Of course if you're talking about a full-handed, early tournament situation, then that is pretty odd. | ||
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