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People are strange...Stars players are stranger..., FeliciaLee, 22. Oct 2003 21:52 | ||
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| (Originally posted 7/14/03) I just played the weirdest tournament I have ever played in my life. Most SNG tourneys last 100 hands or more. Even super maniacal tourneys get to at least 75 hands. We usually play 75-90 minutes or more. Here are the results, and then I will tell the story: PokerStars Tournament #185929, No Limit Hold'em Buy-In: $10.00/$1.00 9 players Total Prize Pool: $90.00 Tournament started - 2003/07/14 - 10:48:50 (EST) Tournament finished - 2003/07/14 - 11:22:20 (EST) 1: Player 1(ENGLAND), $45.00 (50%) 2: felicialee (Charles Town), $27.00 (30%) 3: Player3(Watford), $18.00 (20%) 4: Player4(High Wycombe), 5: Player5(boise), 6: Player6(Garland), 7: Player7(Paris), 8: Player8 (Middleburg Heights), 9: Player9 (Oceanside), You finished in 2nd place (eliminated at hand #81135641) 46 hands played and saw flop: - 2 times out of 8 while in small blind (25%) - 3 times out of 9 while in big blind (33%) - 2 times out of 29 in other positions (6%) - a total of 7 times out of 46 (15%) Pots won at showdown - 1 out of 3 (33%) Pots won without showdown - 0 Now, as you can see, this tourney only lasted 30 minutes. We only played 46 hands. This must be close to a record at Stars. In only one of the 46 hands, was there no one all-in. Only ONCE. And they were going all-in on anything and everything. I only won one hand, K3o. I was in the blind, and I had to take the chance or I would have been out my next blind (yes, I was that low). Things started out badly. The first hand, someone was all-in. I didn't know that the game was as maniacal as it turned out to be, just assuming that maybe a couple of players had monster hands. I should have been more wary, because on the second hand, I was dealt pocket Kings. It was raised before it ever got to me, called in 3 places, and I reraised to 500 chips (over 20x the bb). I got called in one place. When an ace hit the flop, the caller went all-in. I thought about it for a while, but decided to lay down my Kings and live to fight another day. This left me crippled at about 800 chips (starting at 1500). I knew I could make a comeback if I waited. People started busting out left and right. Almost every other hand! I finally got dealt pocket eights and called a very small all-in. We checked it down. The all-in went all-out, but the other caller had pocket Jacks. Now I was really hurting at about 350 chips, but the blinds were still so low at 15/30, that I knew I could hang on for a really long time. I wasn't thinking Sklansky at that point. I was still thinking I would catch a good monster and trap several players, boosting me back up to about 1k, where I would have some room to maneuver. As you can see from my stats up top, I was only able to see the flop from the BB twice. Yes, they were that crazy. When we got down to four, believe it or not, these people people were just as nuts as the earlier players. I won that K3o hand in the BB, but that was it. That boosted me back up to 350, having been blinded down paying such frequent blinds four-handed. I folded virtually everything else, just praying one of the all-in's would be all-out and I could sneak into third. Sklansky was foremost in my mind by that time, I wasn't praying for a monster anymore to bail me out. The chip lead was the luckiest maniac of all. He was making everything. He stayed in every, single hand, being that he has 6k, 7k, 8k, 9k, 10k, and could afford it. He made every draw, every pair, every hand. He would call an all-in with 72o and make trip deuces on the flop (yes, I have the hand history to prove it). He would call an all-in with any suited cards and make his flush by the river. I paid my blinds during the last round and had only 75 chips left, lol. When I was UTG, this happened... Seat 2: Player1(12255 in chips) Seat 5: felicialee (75 in chips) Seat 8: Player8(865 in chips) Seat 9: Player9 (305 in chips) Player9: posts small blind 50 Player1: posts big blind 100 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to felicialee [Th 9c] felicialee: folds Player8: raises 300 to 400 Player9: calls 255 and is all-in Player1: raises 300 to 700 Player8: calls 300 *** FLOP *** [8s 2h 7s] Player1: checks Player8: checks *** TURN *** [8s 2h 7s] [2s] Player1: bets 400 Player8: calls 165 and is all-in *** RIVER *** [8s 2h 7s 2s] [5h] *** SHOW DOWN *** Player1: shows [Js 9s] (a flush, Jack high) Player8: shows [As Kd] (a pair of Deuces) Player1 collected 1120 from side pot Player9: shows [Qd Qc] (two pair, Queens and Deuces) Player1 collected 915 from main pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 2035 Main pot 915. Side pot 1120. | Rake 0 Board [8s 2h 7s 2s 5h] Seat 2: Player1(big blind) showed [Js 9s] and won (2035) with a flush, Jack high Seat 5: felicialee folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Player8(button) showed [As Kd] and lost with a pair of Deuces Seat 9: Player9(small blind) showed [Qd Qc] and lost with two pair, Queens and Deuces So in an instant, I went from having 75 chips, and a sure bubble, to being propelled into 2nd place. My very next hand I was all-in as the BB. I was dealt 72o, what a cliche, and, of course, I was gone. $27.00 for playing 3 hands. What a coup. Sklansky LIVES! | ||
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Re: People are strange...Stars players are stranger..., Mark Barnett II, 23. Oct 2003 11:54 | ||
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| ok now just curious *i have played less than 10 SNG's so just thinking out loud* on your pocket kings hand you said raised and called by several others, isnt that an all in or call spot? by betting what you did dont you run the risk of someone taking a shot at you? sure you could walk into pocket rockets but other than that arent you a big favorite? and is someone gonna call their whole stack on a total gamble? (obviously some will but you want them too) i guess im looking at it as you over bet without shutting them out if someone knew you they could have crap and know if ace flops they can cripple your stack *how can you call* just from what i have seen there is a line between betting enough to make the draws pay alot more than they should and betting so much that you cripple yourself if someone can call. personally more than likely i would have gone all in and taken the money in the pot thats there and if someone traps me with rockets so be it and if somehow they are calling me with anything worse im happy cause they made a mistake btw seeing the results of the tourney ahead of time i had a feeling something like the next to last hand must have happened hehe great job holding onto that chip and a chair | ||
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Re: People are strange...Stars players are stranger..., FeliciaLee, 23. Oct 2003 12:17 | ||
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| on 23. Oct 2003 11:54 Mark Barnett II wrote: > ok now just curious *i have played less than 10 SNG's so just thinking out loud* > on your pocket kings hand you said raised and called by several others, isnt that an > all in or call spot? by betting what you did dont you run the risk of someone taking > a shot at you? sure you could walk into pocket rockets but other than that arent you > a big favorite? and is someone gonna call their whole stack on a total gamble? > (obviously some will but you want them too) > i guess im looking at it as you over bet without shutting them out if someone knew > you they could have crap and know if ace flops they can cripple your stack *how can > you call* > just from what i have seen there is a line between betting enough to make the draws > pay alot more than they should and betting so much that you cripple yourself if > someone can call. > personally more than likely i would have gone all in and taken the money in the pot > thats there and if someone traps me with rockets so be it and if somehow they are > calling me with anything worse im happy cause they made a mistake > > btw seeing the results of the tourney ahead of time i had a feeling something like > the next to last hand must have happened hehe > great job holding onto that chip and a chair>> Thanks, Mark. When I was doing those SNG's, I played situationally. I truly felt that I could outplay most of the low buy-in SNG crowd. So maybe not going all-in with the pocket kings was a mistake, maybe not. I'll never know what he had, nor do I really care. I guess I figure that if someone is willing to call a 20x BB raise, he is willing to go all-in and boot me out. I'll live to fight another day. In the end, I got some of the money, and he was long gone. I have a strategy for $10+1 Stars' SNG's. I don't play them anymore, so perhaps I will post the strategy in full. It probably won't work for everyone, but it worked for me. Felicia :) My Poker Journal: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FeliciaLee | ||
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Re: People are strange...Stars players are stranger..., Mark Barnett II, 23. Oct 2003 12:45 | ||
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| btw take what im saying with 2 things in mind A very limited NL xp and B something to talk/think about not criticising ok let me ask this with your pair how will you play them after the flop? the pot is huge so almost any bet you make has to be all in or they will be getting the correct odds to draw out on you, not saying you would bet every board or most boards but what board can you feel comfortable betting against? i would hate to be in this spot cause im the one having to do the thinking i want the other guy to be the one doing the thinking. again i know people have different styles of play and obviously you got 2nd so it worked just i would have a hard time doing that cause anyone who calls who doesnt have aces could have anything *and i assume Aces would try to put you all in before the flop* | ||
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Re: People are strange...Stars players are stranger..., Mark Barnett II, 23. Oct 2003 12:55 | ||
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| would ask for name at stars *as i play there also* but dont want to reveal mine as i play strange *prone to looseness in other words, im better than i was but nowhere near where i want to be, daily fight* | ||
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Re: People are strange...Stars players are stranger..., Mark Barnett II, 23. Oct 2003 13:29 | ||
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| after rethinking this not sure it makes a difference if you see LooseDueces on stars sometimes say hi | ||
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