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 modest--Matt Savage, gary ford, 22. Oct 2003 17:30 | ||
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| Matt Savage is a very well respected tournament director--If you had been present today, you would know that things aren't better in LV and considerably worse in AC. The topic I brought up was Pokerroom Management--is that an oxymoron? All feedback will be appreciated--trying to stimulate an article in Cardplayer Fuel the boom -- don't kill it----gary | ||
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| Re: modest--Matt Savage, MozMan, 22. Oct 2003 18:02 | ||
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| Gary- I don't know how things are done in other places, but the rooms here in Arizona are all very well run. As if the floormen were not good enough, every tournament director I have met has been an absolute pro. I can't say enough good about them here. What kinds of things are you interested in hearing about? Some general things I would say are that they are always on top of everything that is happening, they always have solid answers to questions, they are rarely unsure, and never try to BS you if they are. Instead, they say, "Let me find out," and are usually back within five or ten minutes with an answer. They always try to make an effort to get to know the players, even those that only show up semi-regularly. They always know the house rules backwards and forwards. -Moz "That's excellent. We knew you'd agree. The companies will be very pleased." | ||
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| Re: modest--Matt Savage, modestmice, 22. Oct 2003 18:52 | ||
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| great moz, not only does ariz not have a actor for a gov, it also has well run cardrooms. | ||
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| Re: modest--Matt Savage, KJo, 23. Oct 2003 09:30 | ||
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| "actor?" Eli on 22. Oct 2003 18:52 modestmice wrote: > great moz, not only does ariz not have a actor for a gov, it also has well run > cardrooms. > | ||
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| Re: modest--Matt Savage, MozMan, 23. Oct 2003 20:59 | ||
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| He's referring to Arnold in CA... -Moz "That's excellent. We knew you'd agree. The companies will be very pleased." | ||
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| Re: modest--Matt Savage, modestmice, 24. Oct 2003 05:48 | ||
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| eeer, moz, that KoJack guy is from hollywood, so he might know that. he be making fun of arnies lack of acting skills. this is gonna be worse than the gipper jokes... | ||
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| Re: modest--Matt Savage, KJo, 24. Oct 2003 09:30 | ||
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| Ding ding ding! Give the man a prize. Eli on 24. Oct 2003 05:48 modestmice wrote: > eeer, moz, that KoJack guy is from hollywood, so he might know that. > he be making fun of arnies lack of acting skills. > this is gonna be worse than the gipper jokes... > > | ||
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| Re: modest--Matt Savage, gary ford, 22. Oct 2003 20:09 | ||
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| on 22. Oct 2003 18:02 MozMan wrote: > Gary- > > I don't know how things are done in other places, but the rooms here in Arizona are > all very well run. As if the floormen were not good enough, every tournament director > I have met has been an absolute pro. I can't say enough good about them here. > > What kinds of things are you interested in hearing about? Some general things I > would say are that they are always on top of everything that is happening, they > always have solid answers to questions, they are rarely unsure, and never try to BS > you if they are. Instead, they say, "Let me find out," and are usually back within > five or ten minutes with an answer. They always try to make an effort to get to know > the players, even those that only show up semi-regularly. They always know the house > rules backwards and forwards. > > -Moz > > "That's excellent. We knew you'd agree. The companies will be very pleased." Hi Moz---The short answer is---all of the above--We had a spirited discussion today--The attendees included Alan Shoonmaker, Linda Johnson, Jan Fisher, and about 20 others. There were many opinions and many trips off the subject, but i would say the majority felt that "management " didn't manage very much and promotion of poker was minimal at best. Until top management recognizes poker for the asset it can become, not much is going to change. One person even suggested that online poker will be the wave of the future, i logged on to Party tonight and there were 21,000 players--the future is here Dont throw water on the fire---Gary | ||
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| Re: modest--Matt Savage, modestmice, 24. Oct 2003 06:12 | ||
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| so gary, can you tell us in more detail what was said at the meeting? thanks | ||
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| Re: modest--Matt Savage, gary ford, 24. Oct 2003 12:24 | ||
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| on 24. Oct 2003 06:12 modestmice wrote: > so gary, can you tell us in more detail what was said at the meeting? > thanks Here are some specifics-authors of remarks anonymous but real 1. The Taj does not care about the players. There's 10 more standing in line. 2. Bellagio and Mirage have an arrogant image and ambiance 3. Most casino cardrooms are considered amenities over in the corner by senior management and not profit centers. 4, Most casino cardrooms are passive and do not participate in the marketing of the property---this was told to me by a respected cardroom manager 5. Most strikingly and to me upsetting was the observation by a very intelligent attendee, that because of the poor management of casino cardrooms and other factors, the boom will be fueled online. This comment was like an epiphany to me--the light bulb went off. That night i signed on to Party---21,000 players----Was that the voice of prophecy i heard????? | ||
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