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 Juicy 2/4 game on UB last night!, Eman, 22. Oct 2003 06:35 | ||
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| I entered in a wild loose 2/4 game last night on UB. Usually I wait for the BB, but i posted anyway one off the button. I did not know the texture of the table yet, and boy I wish I did. I get dealt 45s one off the button with my BB already posted. UTG bets, EP raises, MP calls, LP calls, I call the one bet, and the BB calls, Pot is 6-way. Flop comes: Kh 9s 10s. BB checks, UTG bets, EP raises, MP call, I call, BB calls, Turn is 2c BB checks, UTG checks, EP bets, MP calls, I call, BB and UTG calls River is Ks. BB bets, UTG raises, EP reraises, MP caps, Its a capped bet to me and I fold. I thought I definetly had the lower flush, and I might be up against a Boat. BB had K6 UTG had JJ EP had A10 MP had A9 BB takes down a huge pot that I would have won. I think I made the right play, but I was a little annoyed with the way they played this hand. But then thought how great this table is. If I only knew the texture of this table, I might have called that last bet . I stayed at this table for about 2 hours and won $200. After the few maniacs busted out the table tightened up and I left. | ||
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| Re: Juicy 2/4 game on UB last night!, Eman, 22. Oct 2003 07:26 | ||
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| I also wanted to know what people think of post the blind out of turn instead of waiting for the BB. I usually wait and maybe get a little read on the table texture. What do most people do? | ||
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| Re: Juicy 2/4 game on UB last night!, modestmice, 22. Oct 2003 07:29 | ||
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| on 22. Oct 2003 07:26 Eman wrote: > I also wanted to know what people think of post the blind out of turn instead of > waiting for the BB. I usually wait and maybe get a little read on the table texture. > What do most people do? i always wait watch the table ----------------------------------------------------- "I prefer talking with old persons of the female sex who peddle family gossip; next, with the insane-and last, with very sensible people" -S. Kierkegaard | ||
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| Re: Juicy 2/4 game on UB last night!, Mark, 22. Oct 2003 08:29 | ||
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| i always post in lp or late mp Mark | ||
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| Re: Juicy 2/4 game on UB last night!, Boftx, 22. Oct 2003 10:22 | ||
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| If I am under time pressure, i.e. playing at work during lunch, I will always post except in EP. Otherwise I usually wait unless I intentionally want to project an image of being more clueless that I probably am. Any time I see a new player wait for the BB it alerts me to a potentially better than average opponent. | ||
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| Re: Juicy 2/4 game on UB last night!, Mark Barnett II, 22. Oct 2003 09:14 | ||
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| ok ummm just asking here cause of a comment you made what exactly were you hoping came after the flop to call all the bets you did afterwards? i can understand being afraid of a full house but if your afraid of a bigger flush shouldnt you have folded after the flop? personal experience years ago played a hand where i made a flush on the river using the single 4 in my hand i folded and the winner had the single duece, taught me a lesson in low limit games, call on the end if you have any reasonable kind of hand and pot odds are say greater than 10 to 1, second never be afraid of a bigger flush if only 3 of the suit are on board, sure once in blue moon it will happen but its still worth calling with *noone says you have to raise/reraise with it* went back and read the betting to make sure im seeing 24 preflop 20 flop 20 turn 40 to get to you thats 16 to call a 104 pot or 6.5 to 1 not counting any other calls and from what you said they all called to show their cards you lose to KK KT K9 TT 99 K2 and just about the only player who can beat you is the EP *only one who bet the turn cant imagine if any of the players had had one of the above hands they wouldnt have raised the on the turn* totally unrelated to whether you should call or not, if you call and win the hand your set for life at the table, you got to win a pot you got to show down a somewhat junky hand that just happened to get there and you should get all the action you could ever want. in answer to the posting question easy answer, why did you sit down at THAT table? if it was random and you have no clue then i would wait for the BB if on the otherhand you picked the table cause of its looseness then i would post late, you might get lucky and be able to win a hand with some real trash and be able to show it and advertise *one of the guys* and your image will be set for a long time | ||
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| Re: Juicy 2/4 game on UB last night!, Eman, 22. Oct 2003 10:10 | ||
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| thanks for the advice. I guess I should have called, it was a huge pot. When the early EP player came to life on the river K (spade), I asked myself what cards could these players have if they stayed through to the river with all the raises?..... My read was wrong because I did not know how loose/aggressive the table was........ | ||
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| Re: Juicy 2/4 game on UB last night!, Mark Barnett II, 22. Oct 2003 12:33 | ||
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| one trick i use look at pot size and how many are seeing the flop either or both can tell you lots. if pots are huge but few see the flop think maniacs, pots small but lots see the flop think calling stations, pots large and lots see the flop think nirvana but realize your fluctuations will go up most likely. very rough guidelines 10 player tables only 6+ BB pots potentially good table 35%+ see flop looks loose | ||
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| Re: Juicy 2/4 game on UB last night!, _play_me, 22. Oct 2003 09:17 | ||
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| Just wondering, if not the flush, what hand were you expecting to catch when you called two more bets with a 54 suited? | ||
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| Re: Juicy 2/4 game on UB last night!, modestmice, 22. Oct 2003 09:29 | ||
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| on 22. Oct 2003 09:17 _play_me wrote: > Just wondering, if not the flush, what hand were you expecting to catch when you > called two more bets with a 54 suited? yes, and if you do call all those bets cold, please call the river. why not? its funny when i see super loose preflop, flop and turn, then weaktight on the river ----------------------------------------------------- "I prefer talking with old persons of the female sex who peddle family gossip; next, with the insane-and last, with very sensible people" -S. Kierkegaard | ||
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