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 Keno Solution to bad hands, Michael C, 20. Oct 2003 16:21 | ||
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| Mr. Roy Cooke, I just finished reading you insightful article in the current issue of the cardplayer magazine and found it interesting. Looking over the starting hands that you usually muck I notices that "suited 2 gappers that don't show paint" are usually mucked unless...... Does that that include ATs in late position? Like AJs that sometimes gives me trouble ATs seems to give me more trouble as a "troubled hand". It looks like a good hand to play MP/LP but I am not sure. Seems I most often I miss my flush draw but hit an Ace which sucks me in to seeing another card. Too often I am outkicked. Would you like to elaborate some on it - Thanks | ||
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| Re: Keno Solution to bad hands, Roy Cooke, 21. Oct 2003 08:59 | ||
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| Hi Michael I miswrote.....I was looking to get fancy with my word usuage and forgot that A & T are not paint. Include A's and T's with the paint. Roy Cooke on 20. Oct 2003 16:21 Michael C wrote: > Mr. Roy Cooke, > > I just finished reading you insightful article in the current issue of the > cardplayer magazine and found it interesting. Looking over the starting hands > that you usually muck I notices that "suited 2 gappers that don't show paint" > are usually mucked unless...... Does that that include ATs in late position? > > Like AJs that sometimes gives me trouble ATs seems to give me more trouble as a > "troubled hand". It looks like a good hand to play MP/LP but I am not sure. > > Seems I most often I miss my flush draw but hit an Ace which sucks me in to > seeing another card. Too often I am outkicked. > > Would you like to elaborate some on it - > > Thanks | ||
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| Re: Keno Solution to bad hands, Michael C, 21. Oct 2003 14:33 | ||
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| Thanks - Now I feel a little better. | ||
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| Re: Keno Solution to bad hands, Marshall Farrier, 23. Oct 2003 23:54 | ||
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| I also thoroughly enjoyed your article, but have several questions. For one thing, I felt you were a little liberal with some of your keepers--specifically AX suited and low pairs. Do you think there really is a positive return on investment if you limp in with a 7 pair (my general rule is that they have to be 9's or better, and even 9's I try to be pretty cautious with)? Similarly with suited AX where the X is below a 7 (again my rule of thumb). In both of those cases, I would tend to call only in good position or where some kind of additional circumstances might make them attractive. Or am I missing some good investments by doing this? A second question involves tournament play and small tables. As players get knocked out at a tournament or a regular table loses some players, how does this influence your criteria for keeper hands (aside from other factors such as relative bankrolls, etc.)? My current inclination is to say that it should influence them surprizingly little, but I may be way off base here. Just as an example, if you are down to the last 3 players in a tournament (I'm assuming no-limit hold em in all of this), would you start calling with T8 offsuit or even 97? I certainly don't feel very comfortable doing that, although again I may be missing some winnings by being overly cautious. On the other hand, I would be inclined to call with A7 offsuit at a four-player table. And a third question, a bit off the subject of your article, but one which really interests me in thinking about tournament play: Is there any rule of thumb for what to do when you're quite a way up or quite a way down? Here, I'm inclined in both cases to just play the hands "normally"--maybe taking a few more risks on flush or straight draws if I'm down but generally staying super-tight if I'm up and for sure not unnecessarily providing opportunities for others to get back in the game. On the other hand, I've noticed a lot of good players going all-in at unusual times when they are down, but I don't understand exactly why--unless one is sitting on AA or KK and expects to get called or thinks one can buy an attractive pot. | ||
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